Dailies quote Kosovo Government spokesman Daut Dauti as saying that Prime Minister Bajram Kosumi is ready to meet his Serbian counterpart Vojislav Kostunica, ‘anywhere and anytime’.
‘We have no conditions. PM Kosumi thinks that the venue could be his office in Prishtina or the office of Prime Minister Kostunica in Belgrade. And if the prime ministers agree they could meet in another venue,’ Dauti added.
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Closing the Books on Kosovo
by Doug Bandow
Doug Bandow is a Senior Fellow at the Cato Institute and a former Special Assistant to President Ronald Reagan. He is a member of the Coalition for a Realistic Foreign Policy.
“America's allies, the Albanian majority, conducted ethnic cleansing on a grand scale, kicking out most Serbs, Jews, Roma, and non-Albanian Muslims.
U.N. rule has done little to prevent endemic violence, crime, and instability, including brutal anti-Serb riots last year. Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ) says simply: "the human rights situation in Kosovo is still not a good one, particularly for minority communities who live in enclaves and for the displaced."
At a congressional hearing in May, Charles English of the State Department reported, "Discrimination remains a serious problem. Access to public services is uneven. Incidents of harassment still occur. Freedom of movement is limited. And too many minorities still feel unsafe in Kosovo."”
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http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=23767
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http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=4038
Ethnic Albanians in the Serbian province of Kosovo want independence, but even the
Europeans don't believe they've earned it.
/Isn't it ironic this coming from the the continet full of meritocracy./
Six years ago President Bill Clinton and NATO launched an unprovoked war against Yugoslavia, which had attacked neither the U.S. nor any American ally.
/Obviously the author is a self-centered, America First guy. Let Ibro judge this comment./
Stopping the bitter guerrilla conflict was an obvious benefit, but little good has occurred since the bloodletting ended.
/Even in the worst case scenario, like he but not the Rep. he quotes, claims to be, there was e benefit: now 85% of population "rules" the 15%, rather then the other way around. :)/
There are lessons to be learned. The U.S., with or without NATO, should say never again. Never again will Washington substitute ideological fantasies for practical realities when implementing its foreign policy. Never again will Washington intervene in a distant civil war of no geopolitical concern to America. Never again will America attack another nation that poses no threat to the U.S. The world is filled with tragedy, and the Balkans -- let alone Iraq -- demonstrates how difficult it is for outsiders to resolve ancient and
intractable conflicts.
/Ancient? No sir, conflicts in the Balkans go back to conferences like St. Stefano, Berlin, London, Paris, Yalta, Potsdam, the latter part of which were attended by USSR as well. Malcolm dissproves this point very well his Bosnia book./
Who can and should govern Kosovo, and can they do it fairly and effectively? No one really knows. But it's time to give the local inhabitants a chance to try... And to let them deal with the consequences if they fail.
/Right on, they haven't gotten a chance yet./
A correction for the above post, I meant USSA instead of USSR.
Talks only under certain conditions | 19:01 August 02 | Beta
PRISTINA -- Tuesday – Kosovo Prime Minister Bajram Kosumi said that he is willing to meet with Serbian Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica, but only if the discussion is conducted on the level of two prime ministers from separate nations meeting.
Kosovo government representative Daut Dauti said that Kostunica’s recent invitation to Kosumi for holding discussions regarding Kosovo was not a serious one.
“I do not think that he wants to discuss problems, because he is not in the situation to understand the problems which Kosovo has.” Dauti said.
Chris,
CATO from the begining of the Yugoslav crisis were on the wrong side. But hey, thanks to them Serbs have an institute to refer to when they want to prove something. Thank god that nobody takes CATO for serious.
And again and again it is never Kosovans fault that they are where they are now (stateless and probably on level par only with Albania and Moldova in as far as poverty and “economic development” is concerned). It is Europeans fault now is it?
You are not prepared to listen to any criticism and are in constant state of denial of negative processes that are going on in your beloved 1244. If it (criticism) comes from a Serbian camp then OK, I can understand it somehow that you dismiss it, if it comes from Europeans than – “they are the guilty ones that separated Albania and Kosovo in the first place in Berlin Congress”, if it comes from an respected American Institute – “but yeah, of course they are self-centred and paid by Serbian lobby”. If you deny things they don’t just disappear. Face them and you might just solve them.
There is crime, and not just an ordinary one but on high level and organised, in Kosovo. There are major levels of corruption and public funds misuse in institutions of Kosovo. From 1999 until now economy (if there ever was one) has gone from bad to worst in Kosovo. In political agenda the sympathies towards Kosovans that were harboured by the “west” are diminishing fast and hard. There is a definitive ethnic cleansing of non-albanians in Kosovo and violation of human rights against so-called minorities. From what I read last week your University is in taters too. God only knows what is your health system like.
Chris (and other Kosovan nationalists in this blogg) please don’t try and prove me wrong by saying ”ahaa but Serbia has even worst crime rate, corruption and blah blah blah” because that won’t dismiss my comments. On contrary it will prove that I (and Europeans/Solana, and CATO Institute) am right.
After all if I wanted to comment on Serbia I would join serbiareport bloggspot or something.
Come to think of it, and judging by comments on my intelligence, this is not Ibroreport either but if commenting on Ibro makes you happy then please do continue.
3.01.
VERY well written. The only nation that is good in the Albanians mind is US, even if US doesn´t give a shit about Kosovo and americans one speak to are saying "sorry, we bombed the wrong people". UN is bad, Russia is bad, China is bad, France is bad, this and that is bad. This is a really good start to create an independent nation. I wouldn´t say they are retarded like one told me, but they only read and listen to words that favors them. It will be a wake-up when they see that independence talks will not happen.
Ibro you are such a waste of time! You know only one path and that is the denial and fabrication of facts. I feel sorry for the Kosovar Serbs, the ones which really want to be part of an independent Kosova ( there are a lot of them despite the fact that Ibro ignores their rights) but can't because of the ill informed people like you (Ibro). Europeans want a democratic Kosova and thats what we will give them. You post articles by Doug Bandow who by saying "Albanians kicked out most of the Jews" contradicts himself. I wish i had the chance to meet you personally and who knows maybe buy you a cup of coffee. You seem to be in desperate need of one.
Couple of things to add.
First that question about the embassies in unrecognized countries was mine :).
Second, as a mid-level Hollywood actor I assure you that the Srebrenica tape was not doctored in Hollywood.
Third, I agree with all the Albanian nationalists here. At least they make sense, and don't kill for living.
I also was surprised to read that some blogger had heard that Albanians are retards? hahahah. That's funny. Keep believing that. We are not going to even attempt to change your mind (that is if you have one). And you know why... because we don't care what savages like you think.
Best wishes,
FR
P.S. Nobody likes France (if we assume that Serbia doesn't exist).
Its fun to bash the French...
...btw about the Jews, that is plain BS, there are plenty of Jewish Albanians around, heck the relationship between the two is very strong.
Shalom
Its fun to bash the French...
...btw about the Jews, that is plain BS, there are plenty of Jewish Albanians around, heck the relationship between the two is very strong.
Shalom
OK Chris, so my English is bad (worst or was it worse) and yours is better. Teacher will give you a well-done note.
Again most of your answers begin with “Serbia this and Serbia that” and that doesn’t negate anything I’ve said. If you just take time, chill out first, and read my comments properly and with concentration you will see that I’ve never “advocate returning Kosova to Belgrade's authority because there is crime in the province” (although, now that you‘ve mentioned it, it is one of solutions).
University issue: wasn’t that the dean of Pristina Uni. was dismissed by Education Ministry and there were student protests last week? “The Uni. that is world wide known for it’s research and production of so many well known scientists.”
If you shoot at unarmed older people, if you burn down their houses, if you kill 13 farmers while tending their fields (they’re all Serbs), if you burn down their religious monuments/temples and if number of them has gone down by at least 60% than that is ethnic cleansing to my book. Kosovan invitation is not sincere. And before you set off, YES it was ethnic cleansing that Serbs have conducted too in Kosovo during 1999. Do you want to become Serbs too?
I am sure, that if asked of his nationality, Jean-Claude Van Damme will never say that he is French nor would Celine Dion. In the same token, Hans Peter Brigel will never say that he is Austrian.
If you are Albanian then why are you so jumpy about Kosovan issues? If you are Albanian and Kosovan and that is the same, then why do you want Independent Kosovo? Why not have one country Albosovo or Kosania? I’ve seen that your “president” has different flag, and national anthem, to Albania and that he doesn’t like the idea of Greater Albania. From my modest personal experience, I can say that most of people I meet (Kosovans/Albanians) take a trouble and go to lengths to explain that they are Kosovans and not Albanians and also vice versa.
And most of all - you (Kosovans/Albanians and all the nations for that matter) are in the position that you are because you let it happened.
Why was (according to you still is) Europe against you? Why was Ottoman Empire against you (you were the only nation to emerge stateless after their withdrawal from Balkans)? Before you waste time and try and find other nations faults and wrong doings as a suggestion and for a change, why not try and find faults among Kosovans/Albanians. I am sure that if you try hard enough you’ll manage to find something.
this seems more like serbia bashing and not giving reasons why kosova should be independent-except the only reason being hostility with the serbs..... which sonsidering the facts of last few decades in understandable.
by the way, when people say UN... remember that UN has permanent 5 of which U.S. is strongest. Nothing happens in Kosova under UN that U.S. will disagree with. so just refresh your thoughts. U.S is alread very much engaged in Kosova.
on one of the comments about iraq being liberated....... whow wrote that? or let me ask who believes that? even after such controlled and censured media, does anyone need explanations on liberation of iraq? didn't think so!!
be realistsic people....... ask iraqis....
Try to answer this question of mine..
Why does a swiss diplomat/minister talk about independence of kosovo one day and then have to retract it and try to explain it differently the same day? Does media not know how to interpret the statements? or it was more like tongue in cheek, where others said, hey....its not true.... you dont decide...
Now again about US Consulate. Its a plain and simple truth that apart from US Embassy, United States does maintain US Consulates in many countries where both co-exist in the same country. In some cases there are more than two also. Now in Kosovo, it makes sense to have a consulate to have international relations with the governing authority - the UN. And also for the benefit of status talks perhaps. So stop hallucinating.
Yes yes very true, Kosova has the most abundant natural resources of the world - one just needs to know where to dig. true.... no doubt. Just to tell some of the bloggers here, if such was/is the case, it would have resulted in a colony. like some central asian countries and african countries. I am sure I dont need to explain a colony as not only being occupied by force, but by other means.... read history.... geopolitics.
only those countries where there is nothing, do end up being independent - east timor, afghanistan, etc....... so I wonder if Kosova has abundant resources. I wonder... I am sure that there are so many studies to refer to and articles and books about them, but no one seems to refer to them... but only to ancient history books, which everyone has the freedom to interpret their own way.
If politicians are corrupt, if natural resources do not exist, if people are not capable of working professionally, like say in afghanistan and if populations are hostile, criminality rises and international countries intervene.
I wonder why NATO intervened in Kosova, was it for independence of Kososva, then why UNSCR 1244? Were the BIG Five who matter in the UN not sure about it? hmm... Are they Now? Why are the modern authors and institutes not writing about independence of Kososva - because they are all funded by Serbia... true very true i am sure everyone believes that. But the very strong rich albanian lobby, do not they have enough resources to tell credible insitutes to make case for their independence? wonder why?
Guys wake-up...... corrupt politicians and other ills such as hostile populations ... while they do not mean that any country should not be given independence..... they in our own modern times have led to international interventions, for they were on the verge of becoming an anarchy or had become anarchy.
Kosova should be independent... yes. I sincerely believe it... But.....
If Kosova was independent, the situation as it is now and considering the views of the nationalistic albanian bloggers on serb bashing, Kosova may need international intervention as history has shown in our modern times in other countries. Sometimes it is change of party in power, sometimes it is change of president, etc.
Till such time that the hostility does not end, barbarism continues, it depends, whether one stops one kind of barbarism to allow another kind. I am sure history readers would have seen, even in canada, with peaceful people, one province has been demanding separate statehood, needless to say without violence.
Can one of the bloggers here, really make a case for independence of Kososva here? The NATO intervention was never for independence, I gues, or am I wrong?
The references to Berlin etc. .... well....let me ask you, when exactly did Albanians ask for an independent Kososva... when? After 1999, after 2000, after 2001.... when?
Chris, pardon my ignorance but it is still a bit confusing. First you say:
“…despite your flagrant attempts to separate Kosovars and Albanians from Albania as two distinct nationalities, they are one and the same, and no mention or attention will change this fact.”
And then further down you say:
“If Kosovars did not identify with Albania, why was the Albanian flag hoisted in demonstrations and used by the Government of Kosova until it was mentioned by the international community that two nations may not have the same flag”.
To my book if you accept this than you are two nations, and if you reject using two flags then you are the same. So you chose to have different flags and so this means (also according to you) that you are two different nations.
And then:
“…as that indicates that it is on the road to becoming a nation, and has chosen a national symbol to differentiate itself from Albania…”
From what you are saying I cannot deduce anything, from actions of Kosovan and Albanian (from republic of Albania) politicians (and my modest experience) I can deduce that you are two nations.
It's called politics, douchebag. We are the same nation, but if need be, for us to get rid of the Serbian grip, then we'll choose a different flag. For now.
I WANTED TO ADD ONE THING REGARDING THE CRIME AND THE SERBIAN PATRIOTISM.
ONLY HIGH RATES OF CRIME (THUS FULL PRISONS) ALLOWED YOU TO HAVE SO MANY CRIMINALS COME TO FIGHT TO KOSOVA.
GETTING OUT OF JAIL JUST TO GO AND KILL ALBANIANS SEEMED TO BE A GREAT DEAL FOR MANY.
ONCE PEOPLE WITH FAMILES AND A LOT TO LOSE GO TO FIGHT THEN YOU HAVE BRAVE PEOPLE. PAYING MERCENARIES AND PRISONERS IS NOT THE SAME THING.
Paris, July 7, 2005 -
AP and UPI reported that after the attacks in London yesterday the French government today raised its terror alert level from RUN to HIDE on their four level danger scale.
The two higher French danger levels are Surrender and Collaborate.
The rise was precipitated by a fire yesterday which destroyed France's white flag factory, effectively paralyzing their military according to informed sources.
here is how Albanians really think. . .
Serbia, who?
France, what was that?
Russia, can you say bitch?
UN, sure for a while.
UK, yea whatever.
USA, hell yea.
There it is hate it or love people it is what it is.
Blind as a bat....
Ibro,
I only have this for you, stop the intellectual masturbation, or is it menstruation.
Or else what 12:42 AM?
Chris I don’t think we have a language barrier it is more a difference in logic.
I know that I'm hitting right keys when I see some of you using bad language. It also shows me that you’ve run out of arguments.
Or else you'll have to perform a digitial rectum check because I hear lower-end cancer is prevalent among those people.
And all this from your personal experience 10:57 AM?
Ibro shaci, my words are right above yours, read 'em first and than respond with personal attacks! Otherwise you look glupno and make this place too much fun to ignore.
So what did you think of the Kosumi meeting invitation? After seeking direct negotions with no preconditions for so long, it looks like that too was just an excuse to delay the inevitable. Same thing with chickening out of the decentralization process.
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