Saturday, July 16, 2005

Kosovo: UNMIK head wants status talks to begin as soon as possible

Text of report in English by Belgrade-based Radio B92 text website on 15 July

Pristina, 15 July: UNMIK [UN Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo] head Soren Jessen-Petersen has said that he wants the discussions for the final status of Kosovo to begin as soon as possible. After returning from a trip around Europe, Petersen told reporters in Pristina that the more Kosovo prepared ahead of time for the discussions, the more prepared it would be to deal with the challenges which awaited it. Petersen added that the talks needed to begin as soon as possible because when the international institutions leave, they will be replaced with the Kosovo institutions. The UNMIK chief added that the European institutions were following the progress of standard implementation in Kosovo and that some worries existed. "Decentralization is not coming along as we would have liked it to and this is why there are many European nations who are worried. Everyone wishes to see greater progress with the return of refugees. In order to reach these goals, besides the Albanian majority, Serbs must be engaged in the process as well," Petersen said.

Source: Radio B92 text website, Belgrade, in English 0900 gmt 15 Jul 05

25 comments:

Chris Blaku said...

Once again, further proof of Serbia's support towards its war criminals and its rewarding of the people responsible for the display of humanity in its darkest hour.

Of course, even this Newsweek article is generous to the Serbian people, government and Orthodox Church, providing reasaons for Serbia's behavior.

Anonymous said...

This is the great example your big brother(albania) has set for you pepper munchers. You can find interesting facts and information about albania on the cia world factbook website. It also tells the truth that you turkosporo need Hellas. Just remember that next time you think you can bite the hand that feeds you. We control your fate malakas.


Economy Albania Top of Page
Economy - overview:
Poor and backward by European standards, Albania is making the difficult transition to a more modern open-market economy. The government has taken measures to curb violent crime and to spur economic activity and trade. The economy is bolstered by annual remittances from abroad of $600-$800 million, mostly from Greece and Italy; this helps offset the towering trade deficit. Agriculture, which accounts for about one-half of GDP, is held back because of frequent drought and the need to modernize equipment, to clarify property rights, and to consolidate small plots of land. Energy shortages and antiquated and inadequate infrastructure make it difficult to attract and sustain foreign investment. The planned construction of a new thermal power plant near Vlore and improved transmission and distribution facilities will help relieve the energy shortages. Also, the government is moving slowly to improve the poor national road and rail network, a long-standing barrier to sustained economic growth.

Anonymous said...

More from the cia about you prosfygies.This is why Hellas has crime,because of you peasants.



Illicit drugs:
increasingly active transshipment point for Southwest Asian opiates, hashish, and cannabis transiting the Balkan route and - to a far lesser extent - cocaine from South America destined for Western Europe; limited opium and growing cannabis production; ethnic Albanian narcotrafficking organizations active and expanding in Europe; vulnerable to money laundering associated with regional trafficking in narcotics, arms, contraband, and illegal aliens

Anonymous said...

YEAH !! Hahaha.

Anonymous said...

Hilarious!!! :))) Did you get it straight out of the KKK website?
I got to run away from California because those predictions are pretty scary.

Anonymous said...

It is from some socialist website that has been praising China and requesting from the U.S. government to stop sanctions against Cuba, and of course to unilaterally withdraw the UN and the other "imperialist" countries from "Yugoslavia" (a country that does not exist).

If you live in New York, she belongs to those activists that bug you during your morning subway commute while trying to convince you sign a petition to put a nominee from the Workers Socialist Party on the ballots...

No wonder the anonymous blogger did not put the source or the name of the author, therefore I will tell you that she happens to be some uneducated evangelical redneck that has no clue about the history of the Balkans.

Anonymous said...

I had no idea Greeks are so racist.

Anonymous said...

To the blogger who said "I had no idea greeks could be so racist", they've been this way since they gained independance. They hate anything "non-greek". But if you let these,excuse my french,pieces of shit get to you then you have given them what they wanted. The only reason grease is where they are is becuase they kissed so much ass to get to that point. Besides grease does not want any other country in the balkans to join the EU simply because grease has been sitting on a gold mine for years. Now that Romania and Bulgaria are joining this disturbs greek business interests in monopolizing the balkans. To hell with "hellas" as I say.


Ivan,Macedonia

Chris Blaku said...

To the first Greek poster who suggested that Albania needs Greece because of the CIA fact that Albania's economy is bolstered by annual remittances from Italy and Greece, your conclusion is much too premature. First and foremost, the annual remittances are a part of Greece's economy just as much as they are a part of Albania's, as that money is taxed and put into use within the Greek national budget. Secondly, it is preposterous to suggest that, because of this, Albania's fate is in Greece's hands. The fact of the matter is, like it or not, as an EU and NATO member, there is very little Greece can do to curb Albanian immigration into its borders, without violating international law, which their membership to those organizations obligates. Therefore, the one million+ Albanians living and working in Greece, are there to benefit both the Greek and Albanian economy, and contrary to popular belief in Greece, do not account for the majority of arrests based on their proportion to the overall population.

Moving forward, it is a well known fact that the Balkan Connection has been a popular opium trade route for hundreds of years, as it has served as the most useful connection between Asia and Western Europe. This route had been controlled by various points by Greek, Turkish, Serbian, Bosnian, Croatian and Montenegrin gangsters, and only recently has been controlled more by Albanian gangsters. To suggest this is indicative of Albania's sense of legal obligation is ridiculous, as Mexico serves as the prime gateway for Colombian and Bolivian cocaine into the United States, yet remains a respected partner of this great power.

If you will notice the CIA factbook states about Greece:
Illicit drugs:
a gateway to Europe for traffickers smuggling cannabis and heroin from the Middle East and Southwest Asia to the West and precursor chemicals to the East; some South American cocaine transits or is consumed in Greece; money laundering related to drug trafficking and organized crime
People - note:
women, men, and children are trafficked to and within Greece for the purposes of sexual exploitation and forced labor.


Greece is, was, and always has been a joke in the Balkans. They were Turkey's boytoy until Western Europe regained its footing, which is when Greece began to use its falsified and borrowed-from-Albanian history and ancient traditions to solicit help and support from Great Britian and France, long admirers of Greece's fantasyland of history.

Now with regard to that ridiculous article that was from the "US PRESS," there must be an entire page dedicated to the inaccurate qualities of the publication. First and foremost, it is not from a socialist website, but rather an ultra-conservative author by the name of Mary Mostert, who is considered a joke of a journalist, as well as a bible-belt maniac. Here is an example of some of her other work, on blaming environmental groups for the September 11 attacks days after:

The day following the September 11 attacks, The website, "Reagan Information Interchange," which is run by Michael Reagan, son of the late President Reagan, published an analysis by Marty Mostert, who opined that Osama bin Laden was "just a minor player" in the terror attacks. "Supports of bin Laden say he doesn't have the ability to pull off such an attack," Mostert argued. "Who would want to, and could, destroy the World Trade Center? Does bin Laden have the ability to orchestrate the hijacking of four domestic airliners at about the same time from several airports and pilot them into the middle of the World Trade Center in New York and the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. from his bat cave headquarters deep in the mountains of Afghanistan?"

Instead of foreigners, Mostert argued, the culprits would probably be "other Americans"- specifically, "environmentalist and anti-globalist groups ... the radicals on the left" who were planning to protest economic globalization during upcoming meetings in Washington of the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. "It sure looks to me as if the 'Battle of Washington' was begun yesterday with the bombing of the Pentagon and the World Trade Center," she wrote. "In a world with a population of 8 billion people, 100,000 well trained, dedicated terrorists with the technical ability and the money to plan, coordinate and execute an attack like we saw yesterday can make a lot of trouble, especially when they are pictured in a supportive media as mere 'protestors' and the police are labeled as the monsters."


Source: http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:GPB7O8tg2ckJ:www.prwatch.org/prwv8n4.pdf+%22Mary+Mostert%22+CRITIC&hl=en

There is a clear psychopathic pattern in her writing which, if not outright criminal in its accusations, is juvenile and falsified to the point where it is not deserving of ANY comment.

Chris Blaku said...

Moreover, agreeing in full with what Ivan said, I would like to add that Albania's economy has been growing by nearly 7 percent since 1998. Per capita GDP more than doubled from $800 to over $1,700... and unemployment has been falling. Per capita GDP is now on par with Romania, EU candidate.

Not bad for only a decade of capitalism.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Read this from US press;
And the source was:

http://www.americandaily.com

Which is no american press. The name of the author is:

Mary Mostert

She is well known for her inaccurate reports and the biased sources (Serb government).

One of the responsesn to her article is below:'

Once again, Ms. Mostert has managed to completely avoid the facts surrounding Kosovo, its history, and its demographics.

Although Kosovo was certainly settled since the prehistoric times - and we know this by the discovery of Bronze and Iron Age tombs - the first inhabitants of Kosovo in recorded history are the Illyrian (Albanian) and Thracian tribes, most notably the Dardani.

The next era in Kosovo's settlement began with the Roman Empire. Kosovo was, most likely, divided between the Roman provinces of Dalmatia and Moesia, although many historians believe the territory of Kosovo was completely within the Moesia province.

In the 6th Century AD, the Slavs that would eventually evolve - culturally, linguistically, and religiously - to become Serbians, Croatians, or Bosnians migrated to Kosovo - most likely from the northern Caucasus. The Slavs originally conquered far more land than we occupy today, including much of Greece and Albania itself. The evidence of this is still present in surnames, many of which - in Greece and Albania - have ancient, Slavic roots.

Kosovo, unlike Bosnia-Herzegovina - whose people were never the acknowledged subjects of the Byzantine Emperor - was incorporated into the borderlands of the Byzantine Empire. Bulgaria conquered Kosovo sometime in the mid 800s and held it until 1014. Bulgarian records reveal that, at this time, the population of Kosovo was composed mainly of Bogumils - a heretic sect of Roman Catholicism that was the predominant religion in Bosnia-Herzegovina as well. It is not known whether these Bogumils were Slavic or Illyrian.

Although Serbia did not exist at this time, there were several Slavic kingdoms in the region - to the north and west of Kosovo - that would later merge to become Serbia. By 1216, the whole of Kosovo had been incorporated into Stefan Nemanja II's state, an ancestor of the modern Serbian state.

In an effort to cleanse the region of heretical influences, Bogumils - who composed a majority of the Kosovar population - were persecuted. This was not only at the hands of the Eastern Orthodox rulers, in Bosnia-Herzegovina many massacres of Bogumil civilians took place at the hands of Roman Catholic missionaries sent by the Pope in Rome. It was at this time that Kosovo's Eastern Orthodox churches and monasteries were built. Kosovo's most important Eastern Orthodox structure, the monastery at Pec, was built literally on top of the most important Bogumil church in the region. This is openly, and proudly, declared in Serbian historical records. The two Serbian capitals - Pristina and Prizren - were established by Illyrians and are referred to by the Nemanjic Dynasty as the "conquered towns", as opposed to other cities, established by the Serbs, which are referenced by name.

A great cultural amalgamation took place during these years, one that - by all accounts - was surprisingly peaceful. Records show that the Illyrians of Kosovo, now referred to as Albanians, adopted Slavic names - though not completely. Serbian records show that the people of Kosovo simply started writing their names with the Slavic alphabet, and adding Slavic endings. For example, a name like Djogani would become Doganic. These new names, still common in Kosovo, are not found anywhere else - either within the greater Albanian or Serbian populations.

On June 28, 1389, the Ottoman Empire invaded the Western Balkans. The 'Battle of Kosovo' left both Serbian Prince Lazar and the Ottoman Sultan Murad I dead. Neither side achieved victory until 1455, when Kosovo was adopted by the Ottoman Empire.

This was the beginning of one of the most unusual chapters in European history. Nowhere else in the world had so many Christians converted to Islam, so quickly. In Croatia and Serbia, Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians maintained their faith, uninterrupted, through the centuries of Ottoman rule. However, within the first 50 years, a majority of the population in Bosnia-Herzegovina, as well as Albania, Kosovo, and certain regions of Serbia, had converted to Islam.

Historians on all sides suggest that this is a result of a sort of 'big brother' syndrome. After decades of persecution at the hands of Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians, the Bogumils of the Balkans adopted Islam to side with the current leadership and thus achieve recognition and stability. A contributing factor to this mass conversion is the fact that both Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox leadership in Bogumil areas was, at best, sporadic. The mountainous terrian and disinterest in organized religion maintained the heretical nature of these areas.

The Muslim populations of the Balkans are unique in Europe. Whereas Muslims in other areas - the Tatars, Roma (Gypsies), and so on - moved to Europe from the East, Muslims in the Balkans are native to that region and simply adopted the faith. This, however, did not remove their thirst for self-rule. In the late 1800s, the Muslims of Kosovo - be they Illyrian (Albanian) or Slavic - held uprisings against Ottoman rule, beginning in the modern-day capital of Pristina. This spread to Bosnia-Herzegovina, where Muslims used to the city of Gradacac, an important symbol of Bosnian independence, to begin a wide-spread uprising. By the early 1900s, Ottoman rule in the Balkans was weak and uninfluential at best.

At this time, many Muslims in Kosovo converted back to Roman Catholicism, this time without the heretical attributes of Bogumilism. The Treaty of London, signed in May of 1913, is remembered as a disaster by the Muslims and Catholics of Kosovo. They wished for independence, however world leaders refused to consider this option and were tasked with giving the province to either Albania or Serbia. They chose Serbia.

The retalliation for Kosovar aspirations of independence was quick. You may read it for yourself in Vaso Cubrilovic's memorandum, commissioned by the Serbian government and produced by the Serbian Academy, entitled "Expulsion of the Mohammedans and Romans", often referred to as "Expulsion of the Albanian Muslims and Catholics" or "Expulsion of the Albanians" in English.

In 1945, following the end of WWII, Kosovo was granted the status of an autonomous region and, in 1963, status as an autonomous province. The 1974 Yugoslavia constitution made Kosovo virtually independent. Albania seized the opportunity to provide Kosovo with Albanian-language schoolbooks. With nationalists in Serbia and Albania both trying desperately to adopt Kosovars as their own, an entire generation was raised with the Albanian or Serbian language and culture, and many of the unique Kosovar dialects and ways of life were blurred.

In 1989, Serbia voted to remove the independent status, and self-government privileges of Kosovo - despite that more than 90 per cent of Muslims and Catholics, and more than 55 per cent of Eastern Orthodox Christians in the region opposed such a measure.

> From there, it seems, that everyone but Ms. Mostert already knows what

happened.

In closing, I would simply like to provide American Daily readers with two of my photos, since pictures speak 1,000 words.

The first is Prizren, Kosovo's second largest city. The city's current face is Ottoman, but many of the pre-Ottoman, distinctly Illyrian (Albanian) buildings, ruins, and artifacts remain.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2037/17fe.jpg

The second is Zemun, a Serbian city on the outskirts of Belgrade. The town is clearly Serbian - and the contrast with Prizren is striking.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7374/23ne1.jpg

Chris Blaku said...

I agree with most of that response, however, there are a few mistakes made. Regardless, brilliant response to the psychopathic rantings of an ultra-conservative racist.

Anonymous said...

You gangsters in jogging suits from the kosovo region of serbia sure know as much about history as you do on wiping your asses.Your albanian flag is a rip off of the Byzantine flag for one.You have nothing to do with the illyrians.You people are mix of old ottoman turk blood,vlach,and slav.Your heros are sultans,not ancient barbarians.You have more in common with serbs and turks,this is why you are turkosporo.If it wasnt for Hellas your 3rd world economy would be 4th world.As for the skopjan who likes your type of trash I see they are raising turkosporo flags everywhere in vardar.Maybe you should run back to serbia and ask them for help.I got an even better plan for you pustis,change your slav names to Greek and accept becoming Hellenes and maybe we will call you Macedonians.Then Hellas will help you overcome your turkosporo problem.

Anonymous said...

Hi,
I have to admit i am loving the posts from the above person (the "greek' guy). Sorry guys!! I can not help it. There are many reasons why!!!
Every person that i have met, from grease that is, sounds very much like him/her. Their claim to their identity, their arrogance and hostility towards everything "non-Greek", especially their discrimination against their neighbours, have made a lot of westerners realise that they are unworthy of a conversation. In the place where i work and live they are the most unintegrated and the most socially primitive minds. Everyone seems to agree with one thing that they have stepped beyond their boundaries. His/her kind (the greek person posting here) is probably a Greek refugee in Canada, Australia or USA, who is trying to portray his/her so called "supremacy" on the others, Albanians and Macedonians.
Let me just give you an example. In the place where i worked we had this Greek "lady" who pissed off everyone so much with her Greek this... Greek that ...that people simply stopped talking to her!! The end result was her resignation within a month and a half!!!!
I think you should do the same with the above blogger.

Regards,
Faruki

Anonymous said...

I thought it will be nice for people to read the preface of the third edition of The Close Racial Kinship Between the Greeks, Bulgarians, and Turks: Macedonia and Thrace (1999) by Dr. George Nakratzas

"akratzas's study, with its copious historical data, makes an important contribution to the struggle against nationalism, because its main aim is to demolish one of the fundamental tenets of Greek chauvinism: namely that the modem Greek nation is directly, racially descended from ancient Greece. He marshalls some telling evidence to topple the ideological foundation of chauvinism, the Great Idea, which bears more responsibility than anything else for the tribulations suffered by this people and this land."

Enjoy,
Faruki



PREFACE TO THE THIRD EDITION

The sole purpose of the first edition of this book was to give young Greeks another version of the origins of the modern Greek people, a rather different version, that runs counter to what has been taught in Greek schools for decades.


As the overtones of the modern Greek nationalist mythology gradually came into focus, culminating in such nationalist clichés as the assertion that 'the Greek nation has no kin', that the 'Skopjans' are 'Gypsies', or that the (Former Yugoslav) Republic of Macedonia is an 'ethnic hotchpotch', I was taken aback, and eventually got down to writing this, the third edition.


My hopes of doing what I could to set up an opposing force to this rampant nationalism have not been entirely in vain, considering that something like 3,000 copies have been sold all over the country. For a book of this nature, this is quite an achievement.


Viewed in the light of the general situation in Europe, Greece's present foreign policy has shown that the country's modern ideological armour is still very much the product of a nationalist upbringing, the roots of which go back to somewhere around the beginning of the nineteenth century. But the nation will never find its way in the European Union carrying this sort of ideological baggage.


One of the cornerstones of this ideology is the unrealistic theory that the modem Greeks, expressing as they do the enduring nature of the Greek language, are the biological descendants of the ancient Greeks. It was concocted in the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries to serve as an ideological arsenal in the efforts to create a modern Greek nation in view of the impending collapse of the feudal, theocratic Ottoman Empire. The philosophical challenge to theocracy as a social model of governance first emerged, together with the concept of human rights, in north-western Europe in the sixteenth century, the century of philosophical humanism that produced Erasmus, Shakespeare, and other great thinkers. In Greece, 400 years after the theocratic beliefs of the Middle Ages were first challenged (in 1967, to be precise), there was still talk of 'the Greece of Greek Christians'; and even today we hear a great deal about 'Greek Orthodox culture' -- a culture that has never in fact existed as such, being known rather as 'Orthodox Eastern Roman culture'.


This country's cultural backwardness has been starkly underlined by the efforts of modern Greek society to use the institution of the European City of Culture (Thessaloniki in 1997) to vaunt the mediaeval ideal of the Orthodox Eastern Roman culture of Mount Athos, not only as a historical and cultural facet of the multiethnic Byzantine Empire, but also as a 'Greek' national and religious heritage. These efforts may even have been subsidised by the European Union, at a time when sixty per cent of the population of the Netherlands, one of the most religious countries in Europe, have officially rejected any form of religious doctrine.


A large segment of modern Greek society, which has never really embarked upon the process of ideological modernisation, oscillates desperately between modernism and Greek Orthodox fundamentalism, displaying an inherent inability to make any sort of ideological distinction between the terms 'race', nationality', and 'cultural or ethnic identity'. Apart from the fact that even well-respected journalists are engaged in daily attempts to convince the younger generation that we are directly descended from 'our ancient forebears', views that go against the theory of 'one race, one religion, one nation' are regarded as nationally reprehensible. It is on this theory that most Greeks base their belief that there are no minorities in our country, apart from the 'Greek Moslems' of Western Thrace. Greek citizens who have publicly proclaimed that they do not feel like Greeks but like ethnic Macedonians or ethnic Turks have been pursued and convicted by Greek justice, which just goes to show that modem Greek society not only fails to show the necessary respect for what is different, but cannot even tolerate it. And, being in the grip of a virulent Hellenocentric egomania, this same society, while denying Greek citizens the right to any ethnic identity other than Greek, constantly exhorts Greeks living in other countries to preserve their Greek ethnic identity.


Personally, I couldn't care less what race the citizens of modern Greece belong to; the only purpose of this book is to show, and substantiate with written documentation, how rotten and historically untenable obsessive nationalism is, in the hope of infusing as many young people as possible with respect for the right to self-determination of every Greek citizen and every ethnic group that calls itself a minority, as long as the country's laws and territorial integrity are respected.

Anonymous said...

It is typical of the Greek mentality to taunt the Albanian. They are extremely embarrassed at the fact that it was Arvaniti (Albanians) who saved them from the Turks. They cannot stand the fact the all their Greek mythology is actually Albanian mythology, borrowed and copied from Arvaniti. They cannot live with the fact that Greece is actually 25% Albanian and could even be 35%-40% if one counts the Arvaniti. So including all these facts what does our Greek poster do: he tries to cover up the facts by taunting with words like turkosporo and screaming and crying with despicable first grade level propaganda. Ahahahaha. I think not. The only turkosporo I see here is the greek himself, who for the world of his could not fight the turks of his back, but hid behind the Albanians for mercy.
I ask the Greek poster: what is the name of the soccer stadium in Athens? Karaiskaci.
Ask yourself what he was and who he fought and to whose work you owe your freedom to today. To the Arvanitit (Albanians) of course. Now move on with your life because the Albanians are here to stay, wherever they are.

Anonymous said...

Faruk,

Excellent posting. So much for the Greek Magaloidea. We all know it’s a farce, but I think it is taking the Greeks a little more time to understand that. I believe we will see a slow outpouring of information about the Greek nationalistic agenda. This book only talks about the make-up of the Greek people, and soon enough they will begin admitting to facts that they twisted historical facts, and perhaps current population statistics, and maybe even criminal events, like the ones in Cameria. Wow the future is looking much more favorable for the Albanians.

Anonymous said...

Look g(r)eek if you want to start slamming other people then get ready to get slammed yourself.
Why is it that grease got a bavarian prince to become king of grease after it gained independance from the ottomans?
How greek is that.
Also did you know that the greek flag is of germanic origin? Just look at Norway,Sweden,Iceland and Finlands flags for a good germanic example. Seems to me you're more German than greek.
And how long did it take grease to come up with an official language after it gained independance from the ottomans?
Isn't it true that before your independance half of your land was speaking Albanian.
And what about the first greek president,Kapodistria,who proposed that Epirus and Macedonia be independant. I would love to hear your thoughts on that one athenian. And yes Macedonia has Turkish and Albanian flags flying next to Macedonian flags in Macedonia. These are in areas where Macedonias minorities are the majority. You see Macedonia is a multiethnic state,unlike your racist nazi grease. Does it also piss you off that Macedonia,Albania,Bosina-Herzegovina,and Croatia all got EU pre-assesion assistance to help out with EU ascension. Does it upset you that the predictions are already in after Romania and Bulgaria that Turkey,Croatia,and Macedonia will be given candidate status in 2007 and will become members in 2010. Do you fear that Albania might be mentioned in 2007 to be the fourth candidate.
I think I figured it out now. By golly miss molly I know why grease is afraid of the balkans becoming EU members. If Albania joins then Albanians from Albania can freely enter Epirus since there will be no more borders for EU members. And the Macedonians will rejoice in all Macedonias. And the Turkish minorities which cover a large southern region of your mainland will freely move within and out of Turkey.
Hmmmm, Albania and Epirus becoming one without borders. Macedonia and Aegean Macedonia becoming one without borders. Turkey reuniting with old Turkey. Seems like the greeks will eventually become a spec in the spectrum.


Ivan,Macedonia

Anonymous said...

Alright, back to reality brother.
There won´t be any more countries joining EU after Romania and Bulgaria. Im inside the system and believe me, this century there will not. Wait and see.

Anonymous said...

Skopiani you seem to have lots of fantasys about taking what we took in 1913.You will never have Macedonia as a whole so be happy you have the small piece that you have.Or Hellas will just have to walk in there and take that piece to.Then you woul become hellenes.Maybe not proud hellenes that are descendants of the ancient Greeks,but being hellene is a step up from being a slav and two steps up from being a turkosporo.You sklavini will be the last to join the EU probably in 2045 along with your turkosporo butt buddies albania.Dont be sad though Hellas will still put food in your mouths if your good malakas mavri.

Anonymous said...

I sense a feeling of threat from the hellas. You will not be able to control the EU monopoly any longer. You did well for the last 15 years but you are turning on a downhill, and that is what probably hurts the most.
Don’t forget, if you trace your history about 100 years back, you yourself were probably Albanian, so don’t taunt so much. The world sees that the Greeks have falsified many facts and have committed genocide on the Albanians. Is it not a wonder why Greece has a stacking high file of complaints against human rights in the EU high court?
I think hellas are afraid of Albanian representation in the EU. Have no fear it will happen, even if it takes the next ten years. We have waited 200 years; our patience will not be lost for the next ten.

Anonymous said...

Hey athenian read this:


Around 43 percent of the European citizens support Macedonia's accession to the European Union, according to the opinion poll results read by BBC, MIA's correspondent reports from London.

Croatia is at the top of the list of the Western Balkans' countries with 52 percent of support from the EU citizens, while Turkey with 36 percent of the votes.

Bulgaria was ranked at the second place with 50-percent of the votes. Romania was ranked third with 45 percent of the votes.

Next to Macedonia are Bosnia and Herzegovina with 42 percent, and Serbia and Montenegro with 40 percent.

Some 36 percent of the examinees support Albania's accession to the European Union.

Around 50 percent of European population supports further EU enlargement, which marks a three-percent decline comparing with October last year.



I guess greek dreams of controlling the economic system in the balkans is dying,quickly.


Ivan,Macedonia

Chris Blaku said...

12:57 PM blogger: The disputable history of the Albanian flag is not up for debate, and has absolutely no relevance on the argument at hand. The ancient Illyrians of the Balkans, disputed to predate the Ancient Greek inhabitants, were considered by the Greeks to be barbarians, despite an advanced urban culture and a rich reserve of national resources.

Ridiculous is the idea that the most ethnically pure population in the Balkans, the Albanians, whose culture, language and heritage bears little resemblence to any of its neighbors, are a mix of Turk, Vlach and Slav blood, which is a description more indicative of the genetic makeup of today's Greeks. The Albanians do not celebrate the deeds of Sultans, despite many of them being of Albanian origin, they celebrate a hero that Greeks, Serbs, Bosnians, and Montenegrins have conspired to claim as their own, Gjergj Kastrioti, known as Skenderbeg to the Turks. Gjergj Kastrioti provided the Ottoman empire with the fiercest resistence they had experienced in the Balkans, and also fought side by side with the Catholic forces under the influence of Pope Bonafice XIX, and under the command of King Sigmonsond of Hungary against the Serbo-Ottoman forces of Sultan Beyazit I and Stefan Lazarovic, son of the fabled Serbian hero, Knez Lazar.

If it was not for the bravery and courage of Albanians residing under present-day Greek borders, Greek independence most likely would not have been realized. It was recognized that virtually the entire Greek Navy was Albanian, and Greek language newspapers were rampant with headlines and articles regarding the "deplorable habit of our Greek armed forces with regard to speaking Albanian exclusively amongst each other, an occurence which must be minimized." British and French forces visiting Western and Southern Greece during its war of independence from the Ottomans were surprised to find absolutely no Greek-speaking women in the villages they visited, and made detailed notes of their venture which are still available today in both nations.

It is interesting that the Greek poster invites Macedonians to become "Hellenes," which is particularly indicative of the Greek's national policy of Hellenizing inhabitants of foreign origin. This blatant disregard for a purely ethnic Greek origin is symbolic of a largely ignored symptom common in Greek ancestry, mixed ethnic blood.

It is an increasingly accepted historical fact that modern day Greeks have absolutely no common ancestry with the Ancient Greeks whatsoever.

With regard to modern Greece, it is an economic joke that has been kept afloat by generous benefits and an extended exploitation of their history in Western Europe. The Greeks have kept their heads above water by falsifying history and claiming ancestry to the ancient creators of democracy. Their very existence as a viable democracy and stabile economy was symbolically important to the West during the Cold War, as it would be inconceivable for the very creators of Democracy to fall prey to the Communists in the Eastern Block.

Following Kosova's imminent independence, the influx of foreign investment and wealth to be created in the region will destroy all expectations. The vast natural resources available in the province virtually guarantee that the region will become the metropolis of the Balkans. As mentioned in a previous post, the Albanians have been patient for centuries, waiting another ten years for their chance is not a problem, the time for Greece to be dethroned as the sole source of civilized society in the tense Balkan region, a title they never deserved.

We also may discuss, if you wish, why the ancient names of "Greek" gods, carry no visible meaning in the Greek language, yet remain remarkably similar to both Illyrian and Albanian words of corresponding descriptions.

Anonymous said...

Just some few points:

Albania/Albanians originates from latin word Alba=White, and it derivates from ancient illyrian tribe Pardhans (Pardha=Bardh, means white, and it survived this very day in its original form in albanian!).
So conclusions are as folows:

As everyone knows, all inhabitants of Mediterian started from Portugies, Spanians, Italians, Greeks and Turks are nothing but white in they skin colour but rather a mix of arabian, afrikan or asian(turks!)!
So the only white inhabitants of Med. Peninsula where the illirians/pardhans/now day albanians.
Slavs do not f*** count, since those hords came from Caucasus!
Now, that is the biggest problem i see when it comes to explaining of all that hatered our nigger neighbours show to us!
So my dears neighbours, your racial argumentaions are ridiculos, religion related ones are only funny to us!
Your simply cant stand the fact, that we didnt mix our arian/indoeuropean pure blood with gypsies like u did!
To keep long story short:
True, probably only left arians are rising, and u better keep your heads down!

Chris Blaku said...

Above blogger, your argument is littered with false assumptions and racism, and has absolutely no place in this blog.

Your racist opinions are more characteristic of the Serbs and the mindset we face, rather than our actual tolerant demeanor.

The Albanians were only called Albanians by foreigners, never by themselves, therefore it is ridiculous to assess the history of Albania's name, as Albania rather than Shqiperia, based on foreign labels for the people.