Saturday, July 30, 2005

Covic orders Serbs in Gracanica and Partesh to refuse pilot projects

Citing reliable sources close to UNMIK, Zëri reports that Nebojsa Covic, head of the Coordination Centre for Kosovo, has tried to convince Serbs in Gracanica and Partesh to refuse the implementation of pilot projects for reforms in local government.

The newspaper notes that if Serbs in Gracanica and Partesh support the pilot projects of the Kosovo Government, the chances for a positive report by Ambassador Kai Eide will immediately grow. At the same time, says the paper, the eventual success in decentralisation of power in Kosovo could be the key argument of Kosovans during negotiation on final status.


Anonymous said...

Oh so the point is not decentralization and the well-being of Serbs but rather making demands that Albanians will hopefully not fulfill, and thus get Kosova back.

Anonymous said...

If the report of Kai Aide turns out to be negative it will be so because of the hindernace of the Belgrade authorities. I hope the west recognizes these obstacles Belgrade is placing on the road of final status negotiations.
The very simple fact that Nebojsa Covic is telling the Kosovar Serbs to botch the decentralisation process for the sole purpose of delaying talks shows that the Belgrade authorities don't care about the Serbs in Kosovo. They would rather keep the status quo for as long as possible so they could use the difficult position of the Serbs in Kosovo as a pretext for future invasion. This is despicable. I am outraged that the EU and US are even making us negotiate with these mosnters.
We need the world to recognize independence for Kosovo as soon as possible before there is war again.

Chris Blaku said...

There is no reason to stress the improper behavior of the Serbians, the World has grown accustomed to it. The US is merely pressing negotiations with the Serbians as a formality to declaring their eventual desire for Kosova to become independent.

Remember, deceit is a two way street, and the Americans may very well invite and encourage this sort of interference from Belgrade and Kosovar Serbians are a reason for Kosova to gain its own formal independence.

Anonymous said...

Covic is nothing but a dude who licks Kostunica's a$$.

Anonymous said...

There will not be any independence of Kosova. There is a long, long way to any solution. I think the best solution would be independence, but there wont be any. I´ll be back to explain why.

Chris Blaku said...

Also, please do not neglect to explain the alternative outcome, and its circumstances.

Anonymous said...

Gracanica has always been a hotbed of Serb unrest, so its not surprising that Covic would rely on these people to attempt to sabotage the independence process. By the way, if anyone cannot see that independence is imminent is deluding himself and should open his eyes to the obvious.

Anonymous said...

Ok. Chris. Here we go. First of all I want to tell you that I have worked inside the system as a middle level decision maker and I know a lot what’s going on. Let’s forget who is entitled to Kosovo and forget about the history for a while and leave that to the historians.
In the forties, there was a document signed by the US, USSR and Europe that if Yugoslavia was going to be partitioned in the future, the two provinces cannot ever be own countries and the document cannot be changed. Those two provinces were and are Vojvodina and Kosovo.
It does not say that maybe Kosovo could belong to someone else than Serbia, but independent, no.
It matters not if someone says it can be changed, because as I said, unfortunately, it cannot.
The other thing is that Kosovo is not ready to have independence. There is too much criminality as I think you are aware of since you seem pretty educated. For those say no or deny this, I am sorry that you are not informed about it yet.
This criminality weakens and do harm to its own people and some of your own people benefits and live in luxury while many do not have a penny.
I’m not sure what would be the best for Kosovo and its people. It’s a little bit of Catch 22.
You cannot be ruled by Serbia. You cannot be independent.
One other thing. Do not count too much on US even if they can help you financially, they cannot give you independence. It’s easy to bet everything on one card but it’s not very clever.
In my opinion, even if it’s a long and hard way to go, is that the Kosovo people and the Serbian people sooner or later will become respectful to each other since they will forever be neighbours.
One thing is also worrying. The Serbian army is not that weak that many seems to believe. I don’t think for a second that they would use force again, except in a rare scenario with widespread major riots, but they should not be out counted.
Im sorry to say Chris. I cannot say the outcome. In any case it will take many years to solve the problems you unfortunately have had.
I really hope the Kosovo people who respect diversity and say no to criminality will have the opportunity to live well and have a good life in the coming future.

Anonymous said...

"you are aware of since you seem pretty educated" this sounds like someone who is surprised when a black man speaks in the articulate manner.

The only outcome, the only end result, can be independence, separation not as in "we lived together" but separation as in "Serbs have proven how violent they are, and Kosovars dont need to be part of that little world of theirs".

"is that the Kosovo people and the Serbian people sooner or later will become respectful to each other since they will forever be neighbours."

Ehh, isnt this the case since ages of old? Who was it that everytime gets stabbed in the back and ends up getting back together with the guy/girl who cheated on them? The Albanians of course, we're a sad nation that even after we get cheated on, we need that warm hug of hate that can be only fullfilled by a good old Serb.

Anonymous said...

To the 5:53 poster...I think you are referring to the Tripartite Pact that was signed in 1941. The U.S. had nothing to do with that pact. And it became null and void with the collapse of the Soviet Union. The Pact was made under pressure from Germany and resulted in the Serbian's embracing the Nazis (birds of a feather). In 1942, the politburo of the communist party of the Second Yugoslavia drew out the borders and included that the addition of Kosovo and Vojvodina would take place in 1974. IT STIPULATED THAT both regions be autonomous. The only part the U.S. played in this Yugoslavia was some financial aid when Yugo broke with the Soviets in 1948. This sacrosanct document you speak of doesn't exist. You don't sound very educated.

arianit said...

I haven't heard about this deal, but let's assume it's true, and argue for a while on the legal level. (I'm tired of competing which side massacred and plundered more -- Serbs DID, of course).
1) How about the other document, the 1974 Yugoslav constitution, which says that Yugoslavia "CONSISTS of X republics and X autonomous regions." Moreover, since 1974 follows 1941, and the later document was created in peace by a UN recognized country and its units, Serbia must have given up its "rights" on Kosovo then, because something that consists of can be split into.
2) On the other hand, I'm wondering who had the legal authority to enter a deal with USSR and USSA on the side of Partisans, since at that time they were not even representing themselves, hiding in the mountains of Bosnia, like Karadzic did for a while. If promises are any good, then I'm sure KLA and President Rugova can come up with promises for a referendum made by the Hon. Ms. Albright at Rambuillet to another guerilla force and, this time, a democratically elected president of Kosovo.
3) Yugoslav Partisans and Tito in the fashionable anti-colonial spirit promised their Kosovar counterparts self-determination if they joined the resistance. Conference of Bujan, held in 1943, and attended by Serb and Albanian communists codified this promise. Yet, for Kosovars at least, the Fascist and Nazi occupation was a walk in the park compared to what followed their surrender: killing death-squads authorized by Tito, destruction and appropriation of property, and an uprising that took three years to extinguish in the hills and mountains of Drenica. Faced with such a situation, Albanian communists had to relent and join the new state structures, although they were stabbed in the back and many of them ended up dead in "unexplainable" circumstances. The only benefit that the first constitution of Yugoslavia gave to Kosovo was the definition of its present borders into one single entity, which allowed the de facto advance of its status in the later year.
Dr. Fehmi Agani has written extensively on this issue, and his work is followed or paralleled by that of Dr. Ejup Stavileci.

Anonymous said...

"Citing reliable sources close to UNMIK".... not exactly a confidence inspiring phrase.

Chris Blaku said...

5:53, for an alleged "mid-level decision maker" your arguments are strartingly juvenile. The document in question is void since the USSR does not exist any longer, and the United States did not partake in its signing, as mentioned in a following blog. Moreover, what is interesting is the fact that Kosova's annexation into Yugoslavia was illegal, both by international law and according to the Yugoslav constitution. As quoted by noted Balkanologist and historian Noel Malcolm from his book Kosova:

As for Kosova, it was carried along in this process because it was regarded simply as an integral part of the Serbian kingdom. All commentators at the time, and all subsequent historians, seem to have accepted this as a plain statement of legal fact. And yet the truth- so far as legal facts are concerned- is very different. Kosovo had never been legally incorporated into the Serbian state.

When Kosovo was conquered in 1912-13, Serbia was operating under its constitution of 1903. Article Four of that constitution clearly states that no change to the frontiers of Serbia can be valid unless it has been agreed by the Grand National Assembly- not the 'Ordinary Assembly' or parliament, but a special enlarged assembly summoned to deal with constitutional matters. No such Grand National Assembly was ever convened to discuss or ratify the extension of Serbia's borders to include Kosova and Macedonia. Some might wish to argue that, even if the current procedures were not followed so far as Serbia's internal constitutional requirements were concerned, nevertheless the territories were properly annexed in terms of international law under the treaty-making powers of the king. But the strange truth is that Kosovo was not legally incorporated into Serbia by the standards of international law either.

When territory passes from one state to another by conquest in wartime, the transfer has to be recognized by a treaty between the two belligerents after the war. Such a treaty, the London Treaty of 1913, was drawn up between the Balkan allies (Serbia included) and the Ottoman state at the end of the war between them; but it was never ratified by Serbia, and therefore had no legal force where the new Serbian territories were concerned. Another treaty, the Treaty of Bucharest of 1913, was signed at the end of the Second Balkan War in that year (a war which broke out among the victorious Balkan allies, pitting Bulgaria against the rest); this treaty did contain statements about territorial changes, at least in Macedonia, and it was both signed and ratified. But the Ottoman state was not party to it; so its statements about recently conquered ex-Ottoman territory could not legally validate that conquest itself. In March 1914 Serbia and the Ottoman state drew up a new treaty, the Treaty of Istanbul, which said that they would regard the non-ratified Treaty of London as ratified in those matters which concerned them. Unfortunately, this treaty could not do the trick because it itself was never ratified, being overtaken by the declaration of war between the two states in Octobor 1914. And the problem is not directly solved by later treaties between Yugoslavia and Turkey, such as the Treaty of Sevres of 1920, which became null and void, or the Treaty of Ankara of 1925, which, although it involved the mutual recognition of the two states, made no specific mention of the territories taken from the one by the other in 1912-13.

Only in a rather roundabout and pragmatic way could a case for the new political ownership of Kosovo be made in legal theory. Both Yugoslavia and Turkey joined the League of Nations, and were committed under Article Ten of the League of Nations Pact to guaranteeing each other's territorial integrity. This in itself, strictly speaking, would not prove anything, since the territorial integrity referred to was a matter only of those territories that were legally possessed: if a state was illegally occupying some part of another country when it joined the League, no other states would be thereby obliged to defend that illegal occupation. But if this point about the League of Nations is combined with the pragmatic observation that Turkey did behave as if it regarded those conquered territories as belonging to Yugoslavia- not only did it lodge no formal objections, for example, but it eventually opened a consulate in Skopke- then some kind of legal case can be made, and extended on the same basis, perhaps, to the Treaty of Ankara of 1925. One point, however, is quite clear. This legal case concerns Turkey's recognition that Kosov was part, not of Serbia, but of Yugoslavia, the state which joined the League of Nations and signed the Treaty of Ankara.

As this passage clearly states, the initial occupation and formal recognition of Kosova as an integral part of Yugoslavia was illegitimate to begin with, therefore all treaties and agreements between nations regarding Kosova as part of Serbia or Yugoslavia are otherwise inadmissable.

Furthermore, it is important that the Treaty of Bujan be explicitly mentioned. It stipulated that Kosovar Albanians be granted the right to self determination following the defeat of Germany. In return, Albanian partisans fought alongside the Yugoslavians in eradicating the Nazis, only to have Tito reneg on the deal with Hoxha, causing much grief between the powers, and an eventual formal split in diplomatic engagement.

In addition, in becoming a UN proctorate, any previous treaties, whether legal or illegal, are superceded by 1244 and the eventual decision of the international community on Kosova's status. Quoting Treaties that have been void for decades will not help your cause, and is only indicative of your further desperation.

Regarding your comments on present day Kosova, it is easy to conclude that you are no "mid level decision maker" but rather a mildly informed citizen with an agenda. The criminality in Kosova is not as rampant as Serbian sources would like it to be. The reality is the level of criminal behavior in a nation, has absolutely no bearing on its territorial integrity or its right to self determination. On top of the argument being baseless (the Kosovar crime rate is actually impressive for a nation not yet recognized, and 60% unemployment for a young population, 70% of which is under 30), it is laughable for the Serbian state itself to mention this, being that they have been accused by the United States and Europe of purposely hiding two of the most wanted war criminals in the world, Mladic and Karadzic. Moreover, it has only been a number of years since the murder of their reformist Prime Minister, a man who stated in private circles that Kosova should have its independence. To take this point even further, and to use the Serbian's arguments and criticism with regard to their national situation, Serbia's independence should be revoked before Kosova's is denied. In all honesty, a nation where 50% of the population does not have an elementary school education does not belong as a voice in these tense negotiations, and certainly does not belong among the EU candidates of the Balkans. It seems Serbia must get its own house in order before criticizing the Kosovars for their inability to become Switzerland overnight, as they have been independent for over a century, and still host a population of illiterates (Albania's literacy rate is above 95%, among the highest in the World).

The argument that it is not clever to bet your card on the United States is laughable at best. The very best example would be the nation of Israel, which did in fact bet all its cards on US recognition, and won, despite worldwide outrage and the US recognition. The Serbians would have suggested the same in 1998, when the Albanians banked their freedom on the support of the United States. In the end, it was the United States that freed the Albanians from the iron grip of the Serbians, while an arrogant Europe (France and Russia specifically) were ripe with outrage.

What in the world would lead you to say that America is incapable of giving Kosova independence? What America says, goes. Period.

The Serbian military is relatively weak, and is vastly overpowered by other major powers in the region now. It is but a shadow of its former Yugoslav self, and would be unable to intervene in Kosova, regardless of the circumstances (20,000 NATO troops virtually ensure that).

In the end, your argument was light at best. The expected outcome, in Western circles, as well as in the Balkans, is independence. You have not made your case, and only outlined your arrogance with your increasingly desperate arguments.

Chris Blaku said...

On the subject of criminality, I would like to add that NO Albanians are on the State Department's list of terrorists. However, nearly two dozen Serbians are, and they are hid by the Serbian state and Orthodox Church.

Anonymous said...

Damn you dudes are juvenile even when you are trying to be serious! Do you people not have jobs?! Otherwise, how in the world are you able to sit here are write a freaking novel about your opinions when you know we just don't care about them.

"Middle level decion maker," come on dude; I'm not even going to comment on you becuase you're killing us out here.

On the subject of crime, if any of you does not think that crime is a problem in Kosova it is time for you to spend about three hours there and learn the truth. We have to admit this as a problem if ever want to be able to resolve this issue. Of course, this problem is something we will overcome on the way to FULL independence.

"Middle level decision maker and I know a lot what’s going on" . . . this guys needs some kind of an award. Bloggie, hook this man up with "the dumbest comment of the year" award. Man, I try so hard to sound that dumb but never have I shined as much as you. Good job stud.

In the end, Kosova will get their independece because the reality of life in Kosova dictates such a future. You guys that read so much into history and "politics" need to understand that sometimes the future is determined by a thing so simple as the will of the people.

Anonymous said...

I am 100% sure now that Kosova will not get independence. It will be very interesting to discuss on this forum when Kosovars discover that there will not be any independence and what they will say about it. See ya guys !!

Anonymous said...

You got us there Anonymous (ie last blogger)

You are 100% sure Kosova will not be independent!
Great argument, can't argue there...

You say you'll be back to discuss later. We can hardly wait to discuss with yet another anonymous blogger, who doesn't dare write his name.
Instead he/she just writes insignificant rubish and then flies into oblivion hiding behind anonymous tags.


Chris Blaku said...

Name one example of a territory such as Kosova, with its own postal code, its own elected officials and government, its own telephone code, and its own US Embassy, aside from the host country's. Moreover, a territory with control of its resources, privatized industries up for sale against the will of the host nation, and a population that is made up of 97% non-host nation ethnicity. If you can name a similar territory, your weak argument may have a leg to stand on. Otherwise, you are being illogical in assuming Kosova will not have independence, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

Anonymous said...

To 11.25.
Its very simple. Kosova is the hotspot of Europes outskirt. EU does not want muslims into EU, but at the same time they dont want crisis with a lot to pay, pay, pay.
US on the other hand, want to keep a base where they can monitor the Balkans and some other neighbouring countries and to have those countries "air reachable". The US doesn´t give a damn about Kosova or its people. "Feed them with carrots every now and then and you can easy work further".
EU with some of its memberstates will sertainly not recognize Kosova as a country. Neither Russia, China or many states in Africa. So, whats left ? The US. I shouldn´t think so. The thing is that if you compare the Israely state to you, the Israely state is christian, you´re not. If you compare the intervention of Iraq, they have many percent of the worlds oil resourses, you have not. Afghanistan ? Same, we needed a base there. I say good luck if you believe in independence. I would say it´s a bet of 50 to 1 if you are talking about the coming 50 years.

Aron, Houston,TX

Anonymous said...

PS. Dont give the stuff about Texas independence vs US. It´s 2005 now and counting.

Chris Blaku said...

You may very well be correct in assuming that the EU does not want Muslims to join it, as is evident by France's recent demand that Turkey recognize the Greek Cypriot government as a requisite to EU membership. However, that does not supercede the necessity for majority Muslim states such as Albania, Bosnia, Kosova and Turkey from eventually gaining EU membership. Their largely anti-fundamental perspective on Islam is an additional security benefit to the West, and should be embraced rather than expelled and turned into the arms of Wahhabi fundamentalists who would seek to exploit the impoverished population to their benefit. This perspective is vividly outlined by the foremost expert on Wahhabism and Balkan Islam, Steven Shwartz (author of The Two Faces of Islam: The House of Saud, From Tradition to Terror).

If the US simply wanted a base in the Balkans, they could have installed one in any one of the regional nations, which would be ecstatic in welcoming the US presence as a security benefit to their often-threatened boundaries. For instance, Albania would have gladly welcomed a US base within its borders, as would Macedonia, Greece, Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia, Bulgaria, etc,. You continue to claim that the reason for the US intervention in Kosova was simply to install a military base so "they can monitor the Balkans and some other neighboring countries and have those countries 'air reachable,'" however that assumption is primitive at best. From America's Ramstein Air Base in Germany, the Balkans is only thirty minutes away so the US already had a base that made the Balkan nations "air reachable." Therefore we can expel your juvenile theory in its entirety.

Whether or not the US has feelings for Kosova and its population has no bearing on the eventual outcome and the mutual alliance between the nations. It is clear the majority of EU nations, favor the Serbian cause, England, Switzerland and a few others excluded. However, the EU is compelled to recognize a nation once it is recognized by the sole Superpower in the world, the United States of America. It is highly unlikely that the United States would allow its largest European base (Camp Bondsteel) to fall into the hostile borders of Serbia and Montenegro. Had they wanted a base in Serbia, they would not have gone to the trouble of bombing Milosevic and Serbia into submission. It is fundamentally vital for the Americans to retain Bondsteel within friendly borders, which was the original intention in building the base, in addition to easy access to the Middle East, which they could not realize with shakey Turkish support (remember that Turkey refused to allow the United States to invade Iraq from its borders in 2003). The alternative to the US grip on the world, the Russo-Chinese alliance is not taken seriously in the World today. The Russians, Chinese and French had over $50 billion in pending contracts with the Iraqi Government prior to the US invasion, and their welfare was not taken into account as the Americans replaced the alternative companies with American-British ones.

You show the level of your primitive nature in declaring Israel to be a "Christian State," despite being formally known as the Jewish State. Moreover, it has a 80% Jewish population, and a 1.5% Christian population. Moreover, most of the Christian world was against the creation of Israel, and it was supported exclusively by the United States, which compelled the outraged world to follow suit.

The intervention in Iraq may have well been oil inspired, however what you neglect to understand is the mineral rich character of Kosova, itself. It was Kosova that kept Belgrade alive, and built many Yugoslav cities into the urban metropolis' they are today. Zagreb, Belgrade, Sarajevo, Shkup, Podgorica were all built on the backs of rich mineral resources derived from Kosova. It is estimated that 40% of Hitler's natural resources came from Kosova, which was a major strategic possession for him. Although the studies are still in their infancy, the value of the Trepca mines have been estimated to exceed $6 billion, despite their debt and damage through Serbian misuse, through proper renovation, that figure could easily increase dramatically. Currently the Trepca mining complex is the most valuable piece of real estate in the Balkans. Moreover, Kosova has the largest Zinc reserve in Europe by far. According to Forbes Magazine: "The 'Zinc Air' battery will be to the next decade what oil and gasoline are to this one, as the now perfected Electric Car becomes widely marketed. Zinc will rise in value progressively as Oil becomes a secondary transportation fuel. Countries rich in Zinc mines are going to gain prominence geopolitically and economically." Lignite deposite are plentiful in Kosova, and according to the New York Times, sufficient enough to satisfy the world's needs for the next thirteen centuries. The New York Times goes on further to explain that Kosova's lead and zinc refineries rank third in the World. (These sources are courtesy of Ylber Burgija, a blogger from Charlotte, NC) So you can see the ability for Kosova to generate compariable revenue for itself as well as for numerous US and British companies in the coming years. Moreover, what was not mentioned was possibly Kosova's biggest resources, vast deposits of Uranium found with increasing regularity. Perhaps you can see a picture painted with these facts, and maybe recognize why the Serbians are so steadfast in retaining control of Kosova through any means necessary.

Your explanation on the Afghani invasion was laughable, and it is apparent you gave little thought to your blog in general. I would venture to suggest that the independence of Kosova is years ago, with some sort of conditional obstacle to appease the ever-present Russo-Chinese presence that would be overcome within the next decade, eventually leading to complete independence. The rich mineral resources present in the nation, the energetic and educated young population, as well as strong American support financially and politically will combine to create the strongest economy in the Balkans over the next two decades.

Anonymous said...

here he goes again with his untouchable sources...

Anonymous said...

At least that's better than your anonymous bullshit...

Blaku is killing the serbian propaganda, and that must be hurting. Poor serbs, now they can't even use their well oiled propaganda anymore...


Anonymous said...

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