Thursday, September 15, 2005

Demaçi: Independence or bloodshed

Citing information the human rights activist Adem Demaçi gave to Gradjanski List newspaper, Epoka e Re quotes him as saying that Kosovo Albanians made a huge compromise when they decided to give up on the unification with Albania. “We will not give up on independence”, said Demaçi.

“What Albanians want is independence, and that cannot be reached through negotiations with the Serbian Government”, Demaçi said, according to the paper.

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

Well than you sir you can kiss your a$$ good bye!!!

Anonymous said...

bring it! hahahahahahahah fight on ur onw for once so the serbs can give u a real nice ass kicking!!!

Anonymous said...

I have a question for the previous posters:
Is this how everybody in Serbia thinks in regard to independece for albanians?
Sheding more blood, killing even more civilians, burning, raping and steeling?
This is what serbs did to albanians when they were citizens of Yugoslavia and now
serbs expect that albanians somehow forget and join with Serbia again?!!
You don't have any saying in what Kosova will become, not anymore.
You will have to get a visa to enter Kosova.
What is left to you serbs (read serpents) is to prey for forgivness for crimes your people have commited.
The world is looking at you in disgust.

Anonymous said...

Thats not true at all...

Anonymous said...

Serbia has done a lot of bad things in the past but they are right on the track now, believe me, I have very good insight in the balkans.
Kosova albanians on the other hand, are brought behind the curtain by their media and politicians that they should gain independence!? I can tell you by all of my heart and honour - you will NOT be independent. Every country stalls the talks because they dont know how to proceed ! Resolution 1244, that is the bible or koran if you want, is still very much valid. Remember, that resolution was and is a "steering wheel" that was made when Nato intervened and cannot suddenly be changed, because many countries signed it in UN.
But I tell you, many countries have changed their mind about Kosova since March 2004. And it seems like many albanians believe that the US is behind them. Well, some in US favors independence just like in other countries, and some do not. In the end, and here is the reality if you want to believe it or not (matters not what you believe because its a fact), the UN security council 5 permanent member states must vote yes to independence. If one votes no or veto, you can scream as much as you want that you are independent, but you are not.
Also, does Kosova albanians not know about the huge amount of criminality among their leaders or do they know but doesn´t care ? I would like to know, really. Please dont say "we have not, Serbia, Bulgaria, Slovenia etc have the same" Im asking you ! Do you know ?

EU citizen.

Anonymous said...

What would the other option be?
"More than autonomy less than indepence" is not a realistic solution. What could that be in between autonomy and independence?
Nobody has a name for it.
The independence idea is not something politicians in Kosova came up with and presented it to the people. Albanians in Kosova have dreamed about independence for decades. Albanians in Kosova never got a chance to be independent. They went from turkish rule under serbian rule without ever having the chance to say anything about it. All this because of the ignorance, arrogance and colonial mentality of the Great Powers of Europe at the time, which decided where albanians should live. Well almost 100 years later here we are again about to make the same mistakes.
I don't know for sure that technically Kosova will not be independent because one of UN security council 5 permanent members will vote "No" or veto. What I know for sure in my heart is tha nobody in the world can force Kosovan albanians to live with their killers anymore.

Anonymous said...

"Serbia has done a lot of bad things in the past but they are right on the track now, believe me, I have very good insight in the balkans".

Hey... belive you me,
Serbia is not on the right track because is still hiding war criminals and is nowhere near the "right track" with human rights and freedom of media.

Anonymous said...

Mongolia - July 29, 1990: First democratic elections held.

Serbia - 1997 - First non-communist government since 1944
Serbia - October 5, 2000 - Slobodan Milošević removed from power after huge protests in Belgrade.

Anonymous said...

Who cares if one or maybe two of the security council memebers votes with "no" or "veto". The US and the european countries will. The US and EU will recognize independence. That's what counts.

And hey, blaming Kosovar politicians for involvement in criminal activities from Serbia doesn't look very credible. Serbian politicans are not better.

Maybe Germany is an example for you After WW II Germany dispensed a huge part of former german territory in the interest of peace to Poland and Russia.

So believe me. It won't break your heart to let Kosova go.

Anonymous said...

The poster who referenced March 2004 is right about the impact of the riots on international opinion. The memory of all the Serb atrocities against the Albanians is fading and when a Serb Church is vandalized or a Serb farmer is beaten--even though the Serb ethnic cleansing was vastly greater in scale--it is the fresh incidents that are in the newspapers and in everyone's mind.

Anonymous said...

hihihihiihhihihi nato will leave hihihihihihihiihi and then who is gonna protect u????

Anonymous said...

We just commemorated our 4th anniversary of 9/11 here in the states...I can tell you that each bombing, each drive by shooting, each church desecration reminds us that kosovo is a majority muslim place that is fraught with violence and hatred. We didn't intervene for the pepetuation of that. The society you have created there in 6 years is nothing to reward. It is a shame.

Anonymous said...

To the Serb above who probably hasn't gotten his citizenship yet. Who gave you the right to speak in the name of Americans?

Albanian churches were violated lots of time by the Serbs. They destrouyed our churches and built Serbian churches over the ruins and sometimes they didn't even ruin them, they just prosecuted those who were in charge of Albanian churches and turned them into Serbian churches.
That said who gives a $hit about the Serbian church when its head is involved in the murder of the former prime minister and the organized criminal clan of ZEMUN.

Anonymous said...

Listen to serb hypocrisy trying to appropriate 9/11 tragedy.
You are fooling nobody here.
You people celebrated that day.
And how pathetic is your effort to associate muslim population in the Balcans with islamist terrorism.
The criticism toward albanian society in Kosova seems preposterous coming from Serbia where mafia gangs assasinated the prime minister on the street and the government hides war criminals like Mladic.

Anonymous said...

Serbia? I am writing from the suburbs of a sweet mid-Atlantic state...and let me tell you, since 9/11 and the war in Iraq, any majority muslim nation where churches are being destroyed, cars are blowing up, presidents fear for their life...well, let's just say, our eyes are opened and we know we bombed the wrong side...6 years of the majority albanian/muslim "hatred and vengeance" show has proven that

arianit said...

Well see Dragica, Americans have been creating their country for 275 years and look what happened in New Orleans. More importantly, look what was uncovered by the storm: poverty, racism, ghettos, violence, and incompetence. I take the US as an example because it is the light of the world and we Albanians look up to.
But some are all of those adjectives can be used to describe all of the European countries. It took the killing of 1 (in numbers: ONE) wierd film director for the burning of schools and mosques in Holland; African refugees die from fires that plague Paris ghettos blocks away from Champ Elysee; neo-nazis in Germany firebomb defenseless minorities.

As you see, it's all relative, especially when we Albanians are asked to run our country with a hand tied behind our backs. You have to put things in pespective, in context and, most importantly, don't jump to conclusions with sketchy facts.

P.S. You Serbs joining K. government, KPC, and police would help in self-protection a great deal , too. Belgrade had a chance for 90 years, why can't we get 6 or 10?

Anonymous said...

Serbia, you got nothing on Mongolia!
Politically demented serbs needed 10 years to switch to pluralism and get rid of marksist Milosevic.
10 years after the rest of East Europe.

Anonymous said...

"Dragica" - that sound funny :)
What does it mean?
"Manly woman"?
"Hairy woman"?
I am from Tirana and do not understand serbo/croatian, but i remember serbian anchorwomen on yugoslav tv.
They all sounded like men...and talk about being bored?
Good!

Anonymous said...

Yo bro from Tirana, I bet you remeber when the used to show that film " Wag the Dog" on the Serb national TV 24/7 during the war. I mean I could hear the NATO planes flying over Albania and into Kosova bombing the $hit out of Belgrade and here you had these retards showing a movie where US attacks Albania. Pretty ironic isn't it. That is Serbian propaganda at its finest. A NATO bomb drops in the center of Belgrade and they go; look at the TV the US is bombing Albania. What is even funnier is that while they were re-running the movie 24/7 they get an ultimatum from NATO to empty the Serb National TV building. I guess they liked that movie so much that they decided to form a human shield to stop NATO. Give me a break.

Prince of Albania said...

No need for bloodshed, here is independence:

THE US FAVORS A FORM OF LIMITED SOVEREIGNTY FOR UN ADMINISTERED KOSOVO. Associated Press, Press Release.

The US government has avoided supporting any one solution for the future Kosovo status in public; however the Bush government has been advocating a form of limited independence for Kosovo. State Department sources that wished to remain anonymous assert that the US has supported the idea of a sovereign Kosovo for a while but are reluctant to publicly support a solution at this time.

Kosovo has been under international supervision since a 78 day bombing campaign by NATO drove out Yugoslav troops that were violently cracking down on an Albanian insurgency.

Kosovo’s restive majority population, the Albanians, want independence while Serbia and the Serbian minority in Kosovo oppose it.


CALMY REY CONVINCES SWISS FPC TO SUPPORT KOSOVAR INDEPENDENCE

The daily press reports that Swiss Foreign Minister Calmy-Rey has managed to convince the Foreign Policy Committee of the Swiss Parliament that her proposals for the resolution of Kosovo’s status are righteous. In a meeting with the Foreign Policy Committee, Calmy-Rey reportedly reiterated her position that Kosovo should be given formal independence.

CROATIAN PRESIDENT SAYS KOSOVAR PEOPLE SHOUD DECIDE FUTURE STATUS

Pristina, 7 July: Croatian President Stjepan Mesic on Thursday [7 July] arrived in Pristina where he held talks with the first deputy of the UN Civil Administrator of Kosovo, Lawrence Rossin, who was his host given that Administrator Soeren Jessen Petersen was on an official leave.

After the talks, the Croatian head of state said that citizens of Kosovo and its institutions should be those that would decide on the status of Kosovo. [Passage omitted]

Mesic told reporters that he would like to see that his visit would contribute to better understanding in the region, which is, he added, in the interest of Croatia, too.

"An unstable Kosovo means the unstable region, but we want the region to turn towards Europe," he said.

The Croatian head of state said that citizens and institutions of Kosovo should be those that would decide on Kosovo's status, and that a solution should be sought in negotiations between Pristina and Belgrade with the assistance of the international community.

Asked by a reporter whether he supported the independence of Kosovo, Mesic said that citizens of Kosovo should give an answer to this question.

EU FOR KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE!

EU Favours Conditional Independence, Belgrade Press Agency Reports
The Belgrade-based Blic daily newspaper reported that the European Union is seeking a solution for the status of Kosovo which will be some kind of conditional independence.
Kosovo train is leaving, Brussels conference concludes!

The Kosovo train has left the station and it is up to Belgrade to decide whether it will board it or not, but in any case the train will not stop until it reaches its final destination, which is the independence of Kosovo, is the conclusion of Tuesday's international conference in Brussels on the future of Serbia's southern province.
The conference, organized by the European Center For Political Studies and the Belgian foundation King Boduin, rallies numerous prominent figures from the political, diplomatic and media spheres, all of which testifies about the topicality of the Kosovo issue and the great uncertainly linked to its final status.
There is growing support for an independent Kosovo among the EU nations and the US has privately advocated this as the only plausable solution.

OSCE DOES NOT RULE OUT INDEPENDENCE

Fieschi doesn’t rule out option of independence
Express carries an interview with outgoing OSCE Head of Mission in Pristina Pascal Fieschi. Commenting on Kosovo’s future status and asked about the possibility of an independent country, Fieschi was quoted as saying, ‘Why not? It all depends on you, it depends from the citizens of Kosovo, how they behave, their policies and the standards. Nothing is automatic and nothing comes from the skies. Why not, even independence. No one rules out this possibility.’

BRITISH MINISTER SAYS INDEPENDENCE FOR KOSOVO IS AN OPTION

PRISTINA, Sept 15 (Hina) - British Minister for Europe, Douglas Alexander, has said that independence of Kosovo is one of options in the process of defining a final status of Kosovo, and added that the future of the province depends on results of negotiations.

During his two-day visit to Pristina, Alexander held talks with Kosovo officials, leaders of political parties and representatives of the international organisations in the province.
Alexander assessed that the situation in Kosovo had been improved over past six years and promised that the British government would assist in activities preceding negotiations on Kosovo's final status.

The British minister will depart for Belgrade on Thursday afternoon for talks with Serbian officials.

RZECZPOSPOLITA: EU AGREES TO GIVE KOSOVO INDEPENDENCE

“EU has many problems of its own and wants to bring an end to troubles in Kosovo as soon as possible, through giving it independence”, the Polish daily Rzeczpospolita quotes unnamed EU sources, writes Koha Ditore.

ALL SERBS PAY ATTENTION, KOSOVO IS LOST TO YOU. YOU PROMISSED TO RETURN TO KRAJINA BUT I DON'T SEE YOU THERE. YOU PROMISSED REPUBLIKA SRPSKA WOULD JOIN SERBIA, DIDN'T HAPPEN, AND YOU KEEP PROMISSING YOU WILL BE BACK TO KOSOVO.
GET A GRIP, IT'S OVER!!!

Anonymous said...

World Bank: Serbia Making Great Progress

Associated Press
All Associated Press News

BELGRADE, Serbia-Montenegro (AP) - Serbia-Montenegro has made great progress in implementing business-friendly policies, but there is still a long way to go in economic reforms, the World Bank said Friday.

"The country came to reforms late compared to neighbors in the region, and needs to catch up," said Carolyn Yungr, World Bank envoy to the country.

This week's report, entitled "Doing Business in 2006: Creating Jobs" and co-sponsored by the World Bank and the International Finance Corp., the bank's private-sector arm, found Serbia-Montenegro among the 12 most-reformed places to operate, out of 155 countries reviewed last year.

Georgia, Slovakia, Germany, Finland, Latvia, the Netherlands and Romania were also among leading reformers.

In the 188-page study, Serbia-Montenegro led in overhauling its policies, improving in eight of the 10 areas the report examined.

Belgrade saw the report as a huge boost for conservative Prime Minister Vojislav Kostunica of Serbia, the dominant republic in the two-member union.

"A lot of good things have happened and some credit is due to the government," Yungr told The Associated Press. "There has been tremendous progress, just as long as you don't put up your feet and say you are done."

She stressed that "political stability is very important" for continued reforms but would not speculate on how political scandals shaking Kostunica's Cabinet would translate to the economy.

The report found that to take legal action to enforce a simple business contract, a businessman in Serbia required an average of 635 days in 2004, down from the 1,028 days the previous year.

"That's still quite a long time," said Simeon Djankov, one of the report's authors who was in Belgrade Friday to present the World Bank study.

Registering a business has gone down to an average of 15 days from the 53 needed in 2003, Djankov added. In the past nine months, 7,363 new businesses have opened up in Serbia.

Djankov said Serbia needs to change labor legislation to make the labor market more flexible, and cut down on the red tape in trading.

"The point we are trying to make is that Serbia needs to keep this up for a number of years," Djankov said. "But it's on the right path."

The World Bank study is based on data from more than 3,500 local experts, business consultants, lawyers, accountants, government officials and leading academics around the world.

© 2005 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Prince of Albania said...

CTRL+C CTRL+Z you post this atricle here but then discredit a release by the same organization on the page where they deemed Kosovo as the most condusive for business development.
What will it be?
Is the World bank right or wrong?

Anonymous said...

THIS ENTIRE WEBSITE IS A LAME ATTEMPT BY ALBANIANS TO PR THEIR HOPLESS CAUSE FOR INDEPENDENCE. KOSOVO (NOT FUCKING KOSOVA WHICH DOESN'T EXIST AS A WORD) IS SERBIA. IT WILL NEVER BE ANYTHING ELSE. IF THE EXTREMIST ALBANIANS DON'T AGREE WITH THIS THEN QUITE FRANKLY THEY CAN PISS OFF TO ALBANIA - IT'S JUST NEXT DOOR - WHERE THEY CAME FROM. LEAVE SERBIA AND PEACE AND STOP TRYING TO IMPOSE AN ISLAMIC STATE ON A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY.

Deshar said...

In the latter part of the Middle Ages, Albanian urban society reached a high point of development. Foreign commerce flourished to such an extent that leading Albanian merchants had their own agencies in Venice, Ragusa (modern Dubrovnik, Croatia), and Thessalonica (now Thessaloniki, Greece). The prosperity of the cities also stimulated the development of education and the arts. Albanian, however, was not the language used in schools, churches, and official government transactions. Instead, Greek and Latin, which had the powerful support of the state and the church, were the official languages of culture and literature. The new administrative system of the themes, or military provinces created by the Byzantine Empire, contributed to the eventual rise of feudalism in Albania, as peasant soldiers who served military lords became serfs on their landed estates. Among the leading families of the Albanian feudal nobility were the Thopias, Balshas, Shpatas, Muzakas, Aranitis, Dukagjinis, and Kastriotis. The first three of these rose to become rulers of principalities that were practically independent of Byzantium. albania