Sunday, May 21, 2006

MONTENEGRO EUROPE'S NEWEST STATE

21 comments:

ilir said...

There you are. Montenegro, congratulations on the independence. Celebrate being the newest Europe's state, before Kosovo takes over in a couple of months. We are yet to celebrate. Cheers for this great news.

Dardania 2006 said...

Go Montenegro GO GO GO

Go girl! lol

No seriously, can't wait for the final result to celebrate properly. Just imagine, they are free from Serbia!!!!

Just imagining that makes me all orgasmic (pardon the expression but none comes close to it but that word)

Dardania 2006 said...

Prediction

Serbs will request autonomy inside Montenegro. Now they are "hurt" because Montenegrins chose to choose their own future, and not one with war criminals in Belgrade.

I hope I am wrong. Amen.

Balkan Update said...

Serb propaganda.

Congradulation Monenegro!Now you are free like a bird.

Johnny said...

I'd like to send my Portuguese congratulations to the new state of Montenegro. I hope that its independence will bring prosperity and a rightful place in our growing European family. And I hope Kosovo will soon follow. :)

armera said...

From the bottom of my heart, congratulations to Montenegrins on their independence. Based on the results so far, I see that Albanians and other minorities in Montenegro have proven to be deciding factor, and I am glad in a way that it is that way.

I wish you all the best for the future.

tironsi said...

A cautious congratulations to Montenegro (waiting for official results).

Chris Blaku said...

Looks like the Serbian state has lived to see the Albanians reduce their aspirations to ashes twice within a decade, as it has become obvious that the deciding factor was the Albanian vote in Montenegro's vote.

WARchild said...

While we don't have the official results yet, pollsters are saying that the chances of the results dropping below 55% are vitually nill.

WARchild said...

I forgot to congratulate Serbia on its independence ;)

Mir said...

hCongratulations to Montenegro if they won. I doubt this will change the relations between our people and countries, other than on papers and documents.

Serbia finally independent I guess. 90 years of being told to believe in unity and rely on the other Slavs and now Yugoslavia is gone. I suspect this could change alot within Serbian society.

Dardania 2006 said...

Mir, you'll get your cake (and us ours) when Kosova separates...

..soon we shall feast even more :)

ilir said...

It is now, official. Montenegro is independent.

Cvijus011 said...

THANK YOU MONTENEGRO FOR FREEING US FROM YOU

SERBIA IS INDEPENDENT AFTER 88 YEARS

My true wishes for the Montenegrins, especially in dealing with the albos.

Fir all those wishing a civil war in Serbia, as my good old friend Dardania 2006 says "eat some chocolate icecream".

ZIVELA NEZAVISNA SRBIJA

Bg anon said...

To be honest this wont change much because Montenegro was de facto independent before the vote.

Most important of all it had its own independent economic policy.

As far as Serbia being independent state now I couldnt really care less. It changes nothing. I havent got anything against Montenegrian pro independence people partying though, although Serbia now will have its own this / that (symbols, flag etc etc etc etc zzzzzz) and nobody in Belgrade is partying about that - particularly me, I care about real things, not ceremonial symbols.

Still, its better that the result was sort of conclusive. If it had been in the 'grey zone' (51 percent to 55 percent) things could have been bad. It could have been a fiasco with both sides claiming some kind of victory.

The official result is still unknown but it now looks like 55.4 to the independence block.
The official result is at 22 this evening.

Bg anon said...

Actually the 'preliminary, official' result has now been put on hold for 12 hours.

I hope that this isnt going to turn into a fiasco.

Mir said...

"when Kosova separates..."

Montenegro was an independent country within a nation-state union. Kosovo is a region not a nation-state. You cant compare Montenegro independence to yours.

Kristian said...

To: Mir


You'll see that everyone will go their seperate ways and after a while realize how much they are dependent on each other in the long term.

It's a learning curve.

It'll quell the things that happened in the 90's and then ppl will realize that their econimies need each other.

DimTuc said...

yep, agree with Kristian, sometimes complete independence is the requirement for a renewed unity at a higher level. Thre is never any real unity among peoples if some are oppressed by others, or even if they just feel they are, or that it wasn't their decision to join some union etc.

and on that note, what a shame that Serbia did not agree with Montenegro's proposals 3 years ago for a Union of Independent States instead of the Solania creature. That would still preserve the free movement between the 2 countries as well as the sense of togetherness, while giving Montenegrins the sense that that they are indepdendent. That way, Serbia and the pro-union camp would not have to have gone through this inevitable defeat at a referndum, this feeling of being defeated that Serbia has to now deal with.
Whereas with a full victory now, perhaps Montenegro won't even feel the need for such an independent union. But if some kind of union of independent states could be worked out, then perhaps others could join. And while it's provocative on this list, and i'll probably get it in the neck from both sides, perhaps independent Kosova could be one of those countries joining such a union of independent states ...

Kristian said...

To: DimTuc


In the future, or should I say in the immediate future prior to the EU membership I do see a union as an economic block with free trade amongst all the former areas of FROY. It will benefit everyone in the region to do so. In the next 5 yrs it would be wise for them to do so.

Free movement and no trade trariff's, would spur the economy of the region and would normalize relationships. Its going to happen in 5 yrs WHY NOT START NOW!

Bg anon said...

Dim Tuc so many 'pitys' in the last 20 years or so I wouldnt know where to start!

But, yes Serbia should have accepted the proposal by the Montenegrins a few years back.

And Serbia should have accepted (for that matter), or rather the Serbian Communist / Socialist leadership should have accepted (we, the people, were never offered a referendum) a confederation back in 1990 too - even if as they said at the time, this would only lead to demands for independence from Croatia, Slovenia etc at a later date.

Far better for no blood to be spilt and no ethnic cleansing to take place and have independent states, even if I believe that as Yugoslavia all those nation states can 'punch' harder together in the international system.