Monday, May 15, 2006

Kosovo PM appeals for calm among fellow ethnic Albanians

PRISTINA, Serbia-Montenegro, May 15, 2006 (AFP) -

Kosovo's prime minister appealed Monday for calm among his fellow ethnic Albanians after a series of attacks against minority Serbs in the disputed province's tense north.

"We have to make the first step today, to conquer ... the fear that Serbs who live here represent a danger for us," Agim Ceku said in a radio address.

"They do not. Reducing this fear is the foundation for creating reciprocal trust and feelings of confidence."

Ceku's statement came the week after a spate of attacks against Serbs, including two men who were shot and seriously wounded while working at a petrol station in the northern part of the province.

Following the shooting on Thursday, a Serbian Orthodox Church was damaged in a nearby area and a UN-marked bus carrying Serbs to the divided northern town of Kosovska Mitrovica was stoned.

The Kosovo prime minister's appeal is seen by observers as recognition that the incidents were putting at risk UN-backed talks on the future status of Kosovo.

It is the first of its kind by politicians representing either of the two ethnic groups.

Since Kosovo's 1998-99 conflict, some 200,000 Serbs have fled the province fearing reprisals by Albanian extremists, while the remaining 100,000 live in fear for their lives and property.

Ethnic Albanians, who make up about 90 percent of Kosovo's population of around two million, hope the UN-sponsored talks will lead to its independence from Serbia.

However, in his radio address on Monday, Ceku told his fellow citizens that everyone must be treated equally for there to be "freedom".

"Denying the chance of accepting diversity is a sign of the collective unfitness to walk in accordance with time and overcome challenges of the world around you," he said.

18 comments:

teuta1 said...

Fear? it's not fear. it's albanian barbaric hatred....like their grandfathers, and fathers who collaborated with the nazis...same thing.

arianit said...

I applaud our PM for his boldness.

ilir said...

Our PM is showing the maturity none of the Balkans PM's has shown in the recent history of the region. He is "disappointing" the opponents of the prosperity of Kosova, badly. :)

Mir said...

"Fear? it's not fear. it's albanian barbaric hatred....like their grandfathers, and fathers who collaborated with the nazis...same thing."

hate comes from fear...

Kristian said...

To: Mir


Hey to answer your question about the section that wasn't signed. Yeah I had a lot of reservations on that section B (it was B right?). Probably would of not done it. Giving total control without accountability would not please me.

To: Teuta1

You mean to tell me that serbs didn't collaborate with the nazi's? MOST LIKELY a definate YES!

Everyone in the balkans belongs to the same pool of shit, only difference is bloodlines.

And I'm not putting anyone down but ppl here try so hard to show differences but in reality there are more similarities then differences.

Fact number one: WE ALL BLEED RED! or have you all forgotten that!

Fact number two: OUR PRIDE BLINDS US TO REALITY!

Fact number three: ALL OF OUR BICKERING DOES NOT SOLVE ANYTHING, IF WE CONTINUE ON THIS PATH, THEN WE ARE NO BETTER THEN OUR PARENTS, GRANDPARENTS, AND THOSE PRIOR!

Fact number four: IF WE DON'T FIND SOLUTIONS TO BRING OUR PPL TOGETHER, THEN THIS CYCLE WILL CONTINUE FOR CENTURIES TO COME WITHOUT END! so ppl wake the f--up and use your brains to solve things and don't let emotions cloud your judgements. ITS THE 21ST CENTURY!

Peace to all :)

P.S. If anyone got offended, so freaken what, grow up and live with it. Tolerance is a virtue! Keep that in mind and burn it in your skulls and in your kids skulls...

DimTuc said...

Good on you Ceku. It isn't the first time Kosova leades have spoken out, but he seems to be doing it in more convincing way, and probably also has more cred. God knows why the Serbs hate him, he's seems the best thing so far for a multi-ethnic independent Kosova.

tironsi said...

DimTuc, you answered yourself. Just because he is "the best thing so far for a multi-ethnic independent Kosova" the Serbs do not want him. They make him out to be a terrorist, when no other organization in the World has done so, when they themselves hide the true terrorists among them. How many Serbs in this blog have railed against Mladic and friends? They actually like terrorists, but someone like Çeku who fought with honor they cannot stand.

Serbs In Kosovo are in Danger said...

Ceku is a genocidal madman who just wants his people to wait to kill Serbs after independence is secured-then he will unleash his third genocide.

DimTuc said...

At 12:24 AM, kristian said...
To: Mir

"Hey to answer your question about the section that wasn't signed. Yeah I had a lot of reservations on that section B (it was B right?). Probably would of not done it. Giving total control without accountability would not please me."

Good on you Kristian. Though I support the Albanians' right to independence and think Belgrade had the main responsibility for the carnage of the 1990s, I also think that Section B was impossible for any sovereign state to sign. Kristian should be commended for his open mind, especially comapred to some of the way some people argue around here.

Of course all that was a formality. NATO's 50th birthday was coming up and Albright wanted a victory celebration for it. That happened to coincide with what most Kosovar Albanians (except Demaci) thought ws necessary because they'd had bloody serbian suppression and ethnic cleansing up to the neck. If Milosevic didn't want to sign that section but didn't want a war he didn't have to re-start a big ethnic cleansing campaign in north kosova on March 19, a few days before NATO bombing began. If he hadn't done that, it would have been much ahrder for NATO to justify bombing just because he didn't agree to one section of the agreement. Miloseivc however figured that if NATO bombed he could carry out ethnic cleansing on a level he had only dreamed of before. He was right about that. NATO thought he'd just smash up the KLA to soften them up for when NATO moved in a coiple of weeks later when they thoguht he would sign but just 'needed a bit of bombing'. Milosevic outsmarted them by trying to drive the whole Albanian population out. He thought NATO would let him get away with it just like it helped him keep half of Bosnia. But for NATO having a million refugees inside Europe in giant camps, creating anew Palestinian problem inside Europe, as a direct result of NATO action, would look like a horrible defeat and would not look good on its birthday. So it kept on bombing until the refugees could come home. Both wanted a war and both underestimated the other. Lots of Serb civilians got killed, and the biggest losers were 10,000 killed Albanians and 800,000 expelled from their country who ahd their houses burnt and everything destroyed. If my Albanian friends think the KLA couldn't have done better without all this catastrophe then I respectfully disagree. But at the end of the day Serbia made the choice to respond to bombing by being 10 times as vicious and murderous as it already ws being towards the Albanians - they made the choice, they gambled everything, and lost. No use fantasising Kosova will accept anything other than complete independence now. Serb friends, get used to it.

mitrovica pika pika said...

Ceku and Co ahve been pressured to submission by the EU. Their ideas of placating a bunch of thugs from Dolce Vita cafe is nothing but an abomination of justice and law. Serbs are not interested in living in peace in Kosova. Thier jelaousy is beyond redemption. They are jelaous that NATO bombed them, that their legacy will be of that of massmurder,rape and pillage and today they are still considered the last pariah of Europe. As far as Nazi collborationist every country in Europe had Quislings- Kosova, however, never had a concentration camp Serbia did-Sajmiste.

Cvijus011 said...

mitrovica picka picka,

Nice selective tutorship of history.
Now I would like to meet you with two facts:

1) Sajmiste was organized and directed by the Wehrmacht.

2) The SS division "Skanderbeg" was 100% Albanian (apart from the officers) and have made a wild party in Kosovo-Metohija (40k dead Serbs and numerous destroyed churches).

Serbs are interested to leave in piece in Kosovo-Metohija, but how can they when you keep terrorizing them. I mean look at it, in these two weeks there were 5 attacks on Serbs by your people, that's even more attacks than in Iraq. That's why they are fed up and don't want to live with you.

mitrovica pika pika said...

Seletcive indeed. Should I quote Nedic or you have alread put your penis in your mouth.

mitrovica pika pika said...

"I mean look at it, in these two weeks there were 5 attacks on Serbs by your people, that's even more attacks than in Iraq."

Nice play on a current issue, too bad no one is falling for your bs. However, there were hundreds of dead in Iraq last week, none in Kosova and none of those attacks in Kosova can be put at the door of an organized entity or our government. Which was not the case when you psychos attacked Kosova.

Bg anon said...

Lets not get too carried away. Talk is easy but much more important than words are actions.

dimtuc I think you know why Serbs hate Ceku. Its obvious. A warlord who conducted military operations on more than one occasion against Serbs. Be reasonable, Im sure that any people would be highly suspicious of a person who fought against them twice, for different sides. It kind of at least looks like you dont like that people very much doesnt it? And now he wants to rule over them? I know how I'd feel about that or how you would feel if the positions were reversed.

As if that isnt enough he's also been accused of war crimes.

Perhaps he will be a good Kosovo Albanian leader but he will have to do much more to show that he's capable of representing the interests of those in Kosovo, other than Albanians.

dimtuc I agree some of what you wrote referring to Kristian.
I have studied Milosevic and his form of governance closely. The fact is that the man wasnt capable of solving the Kosovo problem.

And not only was he not capable, funamentally he believed that the Serbian people were also incapable of accepting a compromise solution on Kosovo. And after he abused the Kosovo issue in the early 90's he was afraid of being seen as a sell out. Think of it, he raised the tempo, did nothing and then realised he had trapped himself into a corner.

Most importantly of all, he was terrified of losing elections.

But I would dispute his cynicism and lack of courage, generally and on the Kosovo issue.

With his control of the media he could have reached some kind of compromise with the Kosovo Albanians during the 90's (before KLA, because after that it really would be difficult to 'sell' any deal to the Serbian people).

Throughout the 1990's Milosevic made mistake after mistake in his policies and yes Rmbt forced him into a corner and was something other states would not be able to sign. But if Milosevic had made real efforts * to solve the Kosovo problem I cant help but wonder if things would be different and better than they are now.

* Bear in mind the role of Ratomir Tanic who some have dismissed as a nobody.
I watched all his testimony at the Hague and his 'unofficial' missions to Kosovo in the 1990's are in line with Milosevic policy. He did use men like Tanic to conduct conversations with Kosovo Albanians far behind the scenes of the Serbian and Kosovo Albanian media.

How much of Tanics testimony is true or exaggerated is another matter.

teuta1 said...

Mir,

Hatred is also taught at the mother's knee.

DimTuc said...

At 2:27 PM, Bg anon said...

"dimtuc I think you know why Serbs hate Ceku. Its obvious. A warlord who conducted military operations on more than one occasion against Serbs. Be reasonable, Im sure that any people would be highly suspicious of a person who fought against them twice, for different sides. It kind of at least looks like you dont like that people very much doesnt it? And now he wants to rule over them? I know how I'd feel about that or how you would feel if the positions were reversed"

Yes of course I can understand those feelings and your point is well taken. I suppose I wasn't meaning to throw up my arms and say I can't imagine how they feel. I was mainly referring to some of his recent initiatives which apear to me to be, surprisingly, rather good. Obviously I cannot speak for kosovar serbs' feelings. But since the Albanians have elected him, they'll need to deal with that reality as best they can. I'm pleased that Ceku at least seems aware of what his role should be in relation to the minorities - what happens in practice, well, we'll see.

But let's take two things into account:

One. I doubt we can call any of the current leaders in the Balkans angels and blameless. Actually, though you don't my countries of either origin or residence, I happen to hold a rather low opinion of the people running the show in both.

Two. Ceku may have fought in two wars against Serbs, but from what I can tell he did so as a military man who thought he was doing his duty, rather than as a decision maker. Whether he is responsible for committing specific crimes during bthose times I do not know. In Croatia he fought for the Croatian army carrying out what it considered to be the reconquest of its state territory. You can dispute that but that's not my point. In Kosova he became a very late head of the KLA, near the end of the war, defending what he considered his country. He then presided over converting the KLA to the KPC.

I have the impression fromm that that he is not particularly ideologically fanatical. He might just happen to be what is needed if he can transfer that sense of 'duty' as a soldier to defend a country, as he saw it, to building the necessary foundations for a new country he now heads - whcih must include multi-ethnicity. I have a hope rather than a guarantee.

BTW, if there are specific instances of war crimes within those campaigns that it is found he should answer for, then he should have the same responsibility to go to the Hague. Haradinaj did - and I reckon he did more to try to achieve reconciliation with the serbs in his 100 days in office than anyone to date - even though he IS, unlike Ceku, charged with war crimes. The world does not work in black and white.

Bg anon said...

dim tuc thanks, you make a number of points and present them in a balanced way. I like that.

Your two observations I'd just like to add a couple of comments to. Theres no question that any of the Balkans (or lets face it leaders in the West too) are angels. But I truly dont like the idea of a militaryman (or to put it another way a killer) as having political functions, let alone leading a country / region / people...

That bothers me deeply and I would be very concerned indeed if a warlord became PM or President of Serbia. Maybe its hypocritical, after all maybe a non military politician could have also inspired (or ordered) paramilitaries to murder civilians too. But I cant get past it. A civilian should represent a country not a warlord or militaryman.

I dont know about Cekus motivations for being a mercenary (again this sounds emotive but think its factually accurate to describe him as such in this case) for Croatia. Did he do it for money or perhaps he doesnt like Serbs too much? I dont know but it seems over the top to expect (especially in the current environment) that Ceku will inspire trust in Serbs. Quite the opposite. You can imagine the groans of Kosovo Serbs, almost their vindication that his appointment shows how (un)serious Kosovo Albanians are in seeking an agreement with Kosovo Serbs.

Yes it, his appointment, is a fact and Im all for dealing with reality. Im not one of those that ever thought that if you shut your eyes that everybody goes away.

So, I suppose that he will need to go a long way in reasuring Kosovo Serbs, some of whom are never likely to trutst him. If he truly is well intentioned then on the one hand one can blame the Kosovo Serbs for being obstructionist but on the other blame the Kosovo Albanians for putting him in that position in the first place and kind of expecting (or dont care whether) the Kosovo Serbs trust him.

But ok lets see what his actions will be and or if its a case of him just going through the motions to please the internationals. In which case he will be well placed in his political career.

Im never certain which is worse in a politician an ideologue or pragmatist. Remember the master pragmatist in this region was one Slobodan Milosevic. At least with a ideologue you know where he is coming from. A pragmatist might have no morals whatever.

DimTuc said...

At 12:21 PM, Bg anon said...

"Theres no question that any of the Balkans (or lets face it leaders in the West too) are angels. But I truly dont like the idea of a militaryman (or to put it another way a killer) as having political functions, let alone leading a country / region / people...

That bothers me deeply and I would be very concerned indeed if a warlord became PM or President of Serbia. Maybe its hypocritical, after all maybe a non military politician could have also inspired (or ordered) paramilitaries to murder civilians too. But I cant get past it. A civilian should represent a country not a warlord or militaryman."

I pretty much agree with all this and I hardly think it's ideal, but then there are the DeGaulle's after all. Not that I'm comparing, just that sometimes that's who might have the authority to pull in the radicals behind a bit of common sense, if that's what he wants to do for pragmatic reasons.

"I dont know about Cekus motivations for being a mercenary (again this sounds emotive but think its factually accurate to describe him as such in this case) for Croatia. Did he do it for money or perhaps he doesnt like Serbs too much?"

I don't know either, but basically he was already an officer in the Yugoslav Peoples Army. When that country and army were no more it split along ethnic lines. At that time there was war in Croatia. I guess a lot of officers who were non-Serb and non-Croat made a choice of one or the other to continue their careers. I imagine an Albanian at that time woould not have chosen to fight on the Serb side, or rather Milosevic side, whether or not he "hated" Serbs in general.

"I dont know but it seems over the top to expect (especially in the current environment) that Ceku will inspire trust in Serbs. Quite the opposite. You can imagine the groans of Kosovo Serbs, almost their vindication that his appointment shows how (un)serious Kosovo Albanians are in seeking an agreement with Kosovo Serbs."

Yes I agree it seems over the top to imagine he can inspire confidence in Serbs given this background, and I was also very surprised by the appointment. I guess that is why I have felt pleasantly surprised that his gestures have included speaking Serbian during his opening speech in parliament, regularly visitng serb villages and telling these Albanians that made recent attacks on serbs to get off. Whether it's enough I don't know, you're probaly right it will need a hell of a lot more.

"Im never certain which is worse in a politician an ideologue or pragmatist. Remember the master pragmatist in this region was one Slobodan Milosevic. At least with a ideologue you know where he is coming from. A pragmatist might have no morals whatever."

Yeh that's a good point, but it can work both ways. After all, yes Milosevic was master pragmatist, but that's not true of Seselj and Karadzic, and I think there is good reason to say they were worse. Milosevic the pragmatist was probably necessary to help these ideologues gain and maintain power via his ruthless pragmatic ability to know how to use power, including when to make necessary compromises (that is, until Seselj rejoined the govt. in ... March 1998). Don't forget also that Tudjman was much more of an ideologue, and I don't imagine you give him very hugh marks. It really depends on what "pragmatism" requires of Ceku in today's circumstances. I think it requires the right compromises with the Serb minority to please the internationals and get some kind of conditional independence. Then the issue will be whether he can rein in any ideologues that decide some policy or othher is "betrayal"