Friday, May 26, 2006

Kosovo's premier says that province's independence is inevitable

TIRANA, Albania (AP) - Kosovo's Prime Minister Agim Ceku said on Friday at the start of a two-day visit to neighboring Albania that the province's independence was inevitable.

"Montenegro's independence was an inevitable process and Kosovo's independence also is a very natural and inevitable process," Ceku told a news conference after meeting with Albanian Prime Minister Sali Berisha.

Last weekend Montenegro decided in a referendum to separate from Serbia-Montenegro, which was the last union between republics of the former Yugoslavia after that federation collapsed in a series of wars in the 1990s.

Ceku said that Belgrade should understand that the "Balkans configuration has changed," adding that Albania also shared the same stand on Kosovo's future status -- full independence.

"The only solution that would guarantee peace and stability in Kosovo and the region is the one that comes out from the right of self-determination of the Kosovo people, that is, respecting the Kosovo citizens' will, which is repeated continuously, for independence," said Berisha.

U.N.-sponsored talks to determine Kosovo's future are under way in Austria. Kosovo's ethnic Albanian majority wants independence, while Serbs want it to remain part of Serbia.

43 comments:

Cvijus011 said...

Ceku keeps repeating the same song as a parrot. It seems he believes it and want's to make others believe it as well.

It would really suprise if Berisha didn't support the independence of Kosovo-Metohija.

Besides, I don't really see how will the independence contribute to the stability of the region. Maybee it will calm down the K-siptars, but it will surely signal to the Macedonia siptars that what worked in Kosovo can work in Macedonia also. It will also raise the question why Republika Srpska can't secede from the already instable state of Bosnia-Herzegovina. Also the Croats in Herzeg-Bosna. Not even to mention how many secessionist groups Europe-wide are observing the processes in the Balkans.

Ceku, get reall and don't give us fairytales. Propagate independence but don't give us bullshit how the independence will contribute to the stability cause you know it it ain't true.

Cvijus011 said...

Oh, I also forgot that not only the macedonian siptars will get the signals, but also these in Montenegro

heku said...

The "siptars" of macedonia pressured makedonian gvnmt to ensure their rights, that's why macedonian "siptars" will not follow the same process as Dardania ones. Makedonian gvnmt understood that if it continues by harrassing albanians, Makedonia will split up and they don't want to. Exactly the contrary as the shkije gvnmt who still believes that international community will reestablish confidence in Serbia in the next, say, two decades...

Independence will contribue to stability coz no one will attack albanians when they'll know that each albanian in the Balkans can count on two armies, Albania one and Dardania one. The last certainly more powerfull due to its ideological load during the 10 last yeras.

Cvijus011 said...

heku heku heku,

"Dardania" siptars had everything they wanted in fromer Yugoslavia (autonomy rings a bell?) and in '81 you wanted more. It wouldn't suprise me that after you got something in Macedonia, in some years you will ask for more. Oh, now when you mention it, how were the Macedonians harrasing albos so that albos had to undertake terrorist acts? And how come NATO didn't bomb Macedonia as well?

Independence will contribute only for the siptars, nobody else.

Chris Blaku said...

The precedent of a peaceful Albanian state has already been set by the nation of Albania, which over its century long presence in the volatile Balkan region, has resisted posing any threats of acts of aggression against its neighbors. By contrast, the Serbians have started a world war and ignited the Balkan conflicts, thereby starting, and losing, four wars in a decade at the cost of a quarter million lives, mostly innocent.

The threat of instability because of another independent nation of predominantly Albanians is an overblown myth, the type that Serbians themselves are fooled into believing. The largest security threat in the Balkans, and most Balkan nations would agree, is the greed of the Serbian nation. Perhaps, cvijus011 you could enlighten us with the historical precedents you base your allegations of Albanian aggression on?

Chris Blaku said...

Additionally, the Albanians in Macedonia were treated as second class citizens and denied funding for schools in their language, despite representing 40 to 50% of the nation's population. That's does not constitute a minority, but a near-majority. The West agreed with the Albanians, and apparently, the Macedonians did as well, because eventually the demands of Albanian civil liberties were met. Why haven't the Albanians waged war in Montenegro, where their citizens are granted more liberal civil rights? Why do the near-million Albanians in Germany live and work peacefully, instead of riot and demand things which are not theirs, as you claim is a trait of the Albanians?

Fellow Peacekeeper said...

"resisted posing any threats of acts of aggression against its neighbors" Agression? Albania couldn't organize a bar fight let alone an invasion. It did however destabilize two other countries by losing its entire army arsenals after the collapse in 97, and hosting the KLA by complete failure to control its borders.

The Albanians live and thieve peacefully in Germany because they would get stamped out if they did otherwise.

"The west"? Bill Clinton is not "the West" In any case Macedonia was given the chance (two weeks or so) to crush the insurgency a la Operation Storm / Croatia.

Kristian said...

To: cv....


At 10:29 AM, Cvijus011 said...

kristian,

why don't you tell me how many attacks are taking place against Orthodox believers and Orthodox objects?

Surely there is religious division in Kosovo, muslim and catholic albos against orthodox Serbs. SO don't give me that crap about the religious tolerance in Kosovo when there isn't any.



One question: Why is the serbian government saying that there are attacks against christians? Why don't they rephrase the question as attacks against the Orthodox christians?

When you incluse christians you are also including the Catholics, Prostestants, Evangelical, and Orthodox. The latter followers might be seeing attacks the others are not, but its not based on religion, its more on ethnicity!

So why try to make it a religious war? Just as the orthodox bishop has done in his recent visit to Washington! He could of simply said that albanians disfavor Orthodox believers which are mainly serb.

And the churches mostly attacked were those that were built during the 80's and 90's.

And just to remind you: Serbs were the first to destroy religious shrines and not Albanians. Every action as an equal or opposite reaction. Remember that!

20 said...

It seems to me that the status of EU citizen, entitled to live and work in any part of the union, is the only way to separate the nationalist questions from the questions of borders (which is obviously desirable in areas where so many different nations live side by side). To take part in the first pan-European internally democratic party, visit www.europeunited.org .

Cvijus011 said...

Blaku,

I see you're not in a good relationship with numbers and statistics. First of all albos in Macedonia are 25% of the total population. Now, the siptars are setting a pressedent in the fights for civil liberties. In other countries, cívil liberties are achieved by civil actions such as protests, boycots, round tables and negotiations, but the albos have set a new model of achieving civil liberties in macedonia which is kill macedonian civilians start a war, undertake terrorist actions, but in no case propagate seccesionism. Macedonia with the Ohrid agreement made a compromise cause they were too weak to put resistance. Montenegro is giving you even more rights cause they're already in an unstable situation and they want to avoid what happened in Serbia and Macedonia. Otherwise, you would have the same rights that every citizen of Serbia, Macedonia and Montenegro have, for extra rights (such as education) you would be treated as everybody else in Germany, either go back to Albania or fund it on your own.

I like this parrot talking about how Serbs started the recent wars. Did the pen-for-hire Noel Malcolm taught you that? With the constitution of '92 FRY recognized the independence of Bosnia, Croatia, Macedonia and Slovenia. Now, in Croatia and Bosnia the Serbs, even though I don't approve the tools they used, fought for the same reason you fought in Kosovo. Actually, the difference is that in Bosnia they fought for self-rule within a decentralized Bosnian state, if you don't believe me then read Lord Owen's "Balkan Odyssey". Now you tell me, would the killings start in Kosovo-Metohija if UCK hasn't started terrorizing?

Kristian,

I like this argument about that only the churches from the 80s and 90s were destroyed. So according to your logics, I am allowed to destroy every mosques (because of frustration) in Serbia that was built after 1817? That's great man, thanks for the idea, you are something. Btw, I didn't know that the church of Our Lady of Ljevis was built in the 80s, I always thought it was built in the 12th century by king Milutin Nemanjic (or was it Nemaniqi?).

Religious conflicts aren't just constraint on the fight between Christian and Muslim, but it can go to the sub-groups. Now since the vast majority of K-siptars are Muslims and Serbs are Orthodox and the attacks are concetrating on orthodox objects as well, these have clear signs of religious conflicts. If you were secularized as you claim, then religious sites would be if no meaning for you.

Oh, and who started the destroying of religious sites first? Why don't you read a little bit about the deeds of division SS Skanderbeg, my grandparents remember them perfectly.

I really like your logics about that an action brings a reaction. Your logics would justify me if I went now and destroy anything muslim that I find on my way (don't worry, I'm not that primitive).

Cvijus011 said...

Here's a nice little article:

http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/article620190.ece

now even you siptars cannot doubt this source.

tironsi said...

Cvijus011, well if Serbs keep repeating "Kosovo is a province of Serbia" every other sentence moron journalists are bound to get that latched onto their brain. Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity.

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Cvijus011 said...

what's up tironsi,

sad because the same newspapers and journalist that supported you are now turning their backs on you, or is it maybe that the truth hurts?

Dardania 2006 said...

Cvijus,

From that article you sent:

""You have a criminal state in real power. It needs underground illegal structures to survive. These networks can rely on the weakness of the public institutions to sanction their operations.""

He is talking about the Serb illegal structures of course.

Although no matter how much you post here you cannot change the will of Kosovar people, what you may do is make your life better and fuller of life. I would suggest reading Bhagavad Gita, a wonderful book.

Dardania (Kosovar of course)

Alban said...

listen-albanians are on the rise and nothing can stop us, we are taking back what is rightfully oursand soon our people will be under the same roof, united.

Shqipnia e bashkuar do erdha se afërmi!
so watch out

Segas said...

Hey Civijus 011


You are one pathetic sick puppy...Don't you ever forget that Albanians are the Indigenous peoples of the so called Balkan area...Albanians have been living in here forever.
Oh, by the way where do you Serbs and Slavs of Macedonia come from? you are nothing but Immigrants in this area....
Drop dead Civijus and all of you civijus' cause the Albanians now can stick up for themselves and also kick a Slav ass... for your information Albanians are muslims, catholics and orthodox...there is nothing against serbian orthodox religion! it is all about telling the serbs...Third strike and YOU ARE OUT....

Civijus for gods sake get a life...Kosova is already an independent country...hahahaha i bet you are going mad now...hahahahahhahahahahaa

Alban said...

http://albansreport.blogspot.com/

Alban said...

say later to kosova serbia, if you dont know you better ask somebody

DimTuc said...

At 6:48 PM, alban said...
http://albansreport.blogspot.com/

'Not found'

Sacred Dardanicum said...

Hey you Serbians take a look back in medieval time and see what Servians have made to rest of part of Europe by making counterfeit money. Also another fact is Dante's Alighieri who in his Divine Comedy he blames Servians for counterfeiting money.

Cvijus011 said...

dardania do you have reading problems?

alban, do these great words of how "albanians are rising" have to scare me?

segas, it's hard to find anything intelligent to tell you cause i haven't trained yet to talk to racists and brainwashed kids. Sorry mate. but actually I have a good question for you: How do orthodox siptars react when their muslim brithers are destroying orthodox churches?

dardanicum, at the end you will blame us that Adam and Eva were kicked out of Edem. It's amazing how your hate makes you blind.

Dardania 2006 said...

Cvijus, sometimes I do.

To the rest: Why do you fall into this trap setup by our dear Cvijus? Can't you see he provokes and then runs off and succeds in making you look like themselves?

And to the one who said, "taking what is rightfuly ours". I do not agree at all. Albania can stay where it is, nobody will join with anyone, if it wants to follow to a united Europe with 2 Albanian stattes (itself and Kosova) and two other states with Albanians in them.

Those days are gone...

heku said...

early 90's and the serb gvnmt had I was still a child when we were forbid to go to school and to learn in our language. And that's what you call all the civil rights? And why should we have to fight to gain our civil rights? are they not inherent to each nation or ethnic group of each nation?

Our struggle for gaining our rights comes at the same time as the awekening of serbian nationalism pushed by orthodox church (the famous problem of dividing religious affairs and state affairs) and the famous bill of the serb academic science institution in 1986 which called for "revenge", yes you red well it's written on it!

The fight for civil rights should never happen but unfortunately, when you have tyrans in front of you, you can't do anything.

You have to make up your mind. "Shiptars" are awekening and with them, hundreds years of frustration and humiliation. We will canalize it to gain what we have to gain, nothing more, nothing less!

I even remember when we were at school, it was in the early 90's and the serb gvnmt had to make a move toward our claims. But, one day, the policemen came round the school, I lived at that time in Hajvali, it's now considered as a suburb of Prishtina. They threw products for killing the rats in our class rooms, some of the children died, some of them still have suites from that day. Fortunately I left and went here to Switzerland.

If this is a civil right, you have to change planet and go to live to the one where civil rights are composed with torture, executions, discrimination, humiliation, police controls and "passage à tabac" and all the famous stuff that only you have the secret.

For coming back to the independent article, it only wrights that they regret the time when Yougoslavia existed, of course, me too, but Tito's Yougoslavia and not that shit that it became with serb nationalism. You're not the Piemont of the Balkans, make up your mind. Austria and Germany did what the wanted all because of your nationalism and now they say that they hoked up they life level because of what happened in former Yougoslavia. A quarter a million of deaths all this for improving the asses of Austrians and Germans and all because of your former president and nationalist party.

I'm not saying that all serbs are nationalists but when it happened, you should have raised against them.

Segas said...

Civijus 011

for your info i ain't a racist! you are one... you have to undesrtand one thing Albanians are here, the have always been here and will be here forever! get over it man don't give yourself a hard time cause you'll go mad and there is nothing we can do to help you... Albanians have kicked a serb arse in combat and now in negotiations. there is no need to tell me anything intelligent! you have to tell yourslef that.i wil help you! Don't bother with Albanians anymore because thy are strong and united now with close to 10 million of them...be a good neighbor and lets get on with our lives and not have any sick ideas of taking over one another...Albanian orthodox undersatnd very well what serbs have done to thir Albanian muslim and catholic brothers...
get a life buddy dont waste your time on Kosova and Albanians because it will be very unpleasant for you...

Sacred Dardanicum said...

Cvijus011

I wonder how did the bosnians or peoples of Sandzak reacted when you destroyed Mosques.

For us Albanians, we do know that the serbian orthodox church participated, planned and also carried many attrocities toward non serbian and non orthodox people.

We Albanians made only one mistake during history. Not destroying the old Albanian churches because now they are being used by you sevians.

And since today I will stop calling you Serbians but I will call you servians. If you blame us for SS Skanderbeg who should blame you for Crna Ruka (The Black Hand). And also for provoking the First World War.

Sacred Dardanicum said...

And what about the Albanian from Ilirida. It is true that those Albanians didn't wanted to break up FYROM.

Even they do consist more then 35% of total population (when it will take the real census it will show the different figures that albanians consiste only 47 percent of total popultation and within 5 years giving to mortality and natality of macedonians they fill pass 50% of total population)

Cvijus011 said...

First of all here's a nice article of a very prominent Albanian intellectual that was prosecuted and still is prosecuted by his own people:

http://www.unitedmacedonians.org/macedonia/kaplan_english.html

Dardanicum,

Comparing SS Skanderbeg and Crna Ruka is like comparing Manchester United and one little soccer club in a siptar village. Whereas, SS Skanderbeg has killed thousands, Crna Ruka killed only three people. And this about starting the WWI, only a complete blinded racist idiot like yourself would say that. Every jistory book analyzes the roots of the war that come from the Franco-Prussian war of 1870s. Everybody agree that the assasination of Franz Ferdinand was just the reason for what the Austrians have waited for in order to attack Serbia. Besides, Serbia did accept the Austrian ultimatum.

sega,

"cause the Albanians now can stick up for themselves and also kick a Slav ass..."

"Oh, by the way where do you Serbs and Slavs of Macedonia come from? you are nothing but Immigrants in this area...."

this sounds to me like racism

"Albanians have kicked a serb arse in combat and now in negotiations."

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...were did you live in '99 kid? In a shithole like the ancient Dardanians did? Jesus you're stupid. If it wasn't for NATO you would have your asses kicked big time. If it wasn't for NATO Taci, Haradinaj and Ceku would be rooting in the Belgrade prison. Go and play some PC games.

heku,

I recommend you to read Lord Owen's "Balkan Odyssey". Many things would have been prevented if the siptars haven't participated in the Serbian opposition against Milosevic ever since '92. Milan Panic needed only a little bit more votes to beat Milosevic in '92 (which would bring you more than autonomy) but you declined to join into any coalition with any anti-Milosevic force because of your racist leadership. You didn't even help in '96 when Djindjic openly called you in a coalition. And now you are arrogant enough to tell that non-Milosevic people were reluctant to help you. And tell me when did the killing start in Kosovo-Metohija? Was it maybe when UCK started terrorizing. Now, Lord Owen is vewry critical to every side in his book, but one thing for what he's apsolutelly right is that the siptars alone are to be blamed for their own misery.

dardance,

read the article again, real reading NOT selective reading as you always do. Smarten up boy.

"Can't you see he provokes and then runs off and succeds in making you look like themselves?"

Dude, you're mixing me with siptars. No no no, I'm not like the siptars to hit and run.

Kristian said...

To: cv....



Kristian,

I like this argument about that only the churches from the 80s and 90s were destroyed. So according to your logics, I am allowed to destroy every mosques (because of frustration) in Serbia that was built after 1817? That's great man, thanks for the idea, you are something. Btw, I didn't know that the church of Our Lady of Ljevis was built in the 80s, I always thought it was built in the 12th century by king Milutin Nemanjic (or was it Nemaniqi?).


I think you should read my comments a bit more carefully before you jump to conclusions of what I said.

This is what I said:


And the churches mostly attacked were those that were built during the 80's and 90's.

THE KEY WORD BEING MOSTLY!
I did not say that all the churches damaged were of pre 80's, 80's, and 90's, and to the present. The majority of those desecrated where the most recently built churches.

And if I recall, the govt kept on saying that Decani church was destroyed entirely, and the one in Graca... neither were even touched. The govt was screaming so loud that all the churches were destroyed but when reality showed that the number was far less they retracted their statements. When asked if they had destroyed Mosques they completely denied it. Why is that?


Religious conflicts aren't just constraint on the fight between Christian and Muslim, but it can go to the sub-groups

So why didn't the bishop clarify that it was these "sub-groups" that were being attacked. He understood that in the USA many ppl are religious and the WAR ON IRAQ is causing strife in our government and our beliefs. He is trying to put a wedge between CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS! Which in my opion is hitting below the belt to get christian reaction to fight the 'EVIL MUSLIMS" and join the serbian cause.

Oh, and who started the destroying of religious sites first? Why don't you read a little bit about the deeds of division SS Skanderbeg, my grandparents remember them perfectly.

So lets see the serbs didn't do anything against muslims prior to the SS division being formed? SERBS WERE A PIOUS PPL AND NEVER DID ANYTHING AGAINST THE MUSLIM POPULATION. HARDLY DOUBT THAT!


And after the SS division what did serbs do to albanians, my grandfather at the age of 16 spent 3 years in jail and was left for dead bc of serbs am I to kill serbs now bc of what happened almost 80yrs ago. I DO NOT THINK SO BUT I WILL NOT FORGET! Communist serbs I dislike with a passion for what they did to him but communism is no more.

AND YOU FORGET HOW MANY SERBS WERE SHIELDED BY ALBANIANS DURING THE TIME OF WAR! By your LOGIC albanians should of let those serbs die at the hands of italians and germans, but they didn't and those same serbs turned around and inprisoned those that helped them during the communst era.

ALSO LOOK AT WHAT YOU DID TO THE JEWS.


I really like your logics about that an action brings a reaction. Your logics would justify me if I went now and destroy anything muslim that I find on my way (don't worry, I'm not that primitive).

You still didnt' get the logic did you. Logic emcompansses a full circle. Serbs destroyed mosques and CATHOLIC churches. (you know since were all christian cv.. EX. the chuch in Gjokova or Djocovica was destroyed ST. Anthony's)

Since the circle is comming to an end and both governments have agreed that the sites will be protected that circle, life cycle, or chapter is closed.






And oh as far as crime is concerned that you and Ivana always point out. The serbian KING OF COCAINE Joca was just released from jail.

http://www.focus-fen.net/index.php
?catid=125&ch=0&newsid=89083

You keep saying that Albanians are terrorists and criminals but I don't think anyone of us has the supreme title of "KING"!

Peace my friend and next time read more carefully what I write and don't jump to conclusions when you misread my comments.

Dardania 2006 said...

dardance,

read the article again, real reading NOT selective reading as you always do. Smarten up boy.


Thanks for calling me cute names Cvijus. Is that how you practice your racial supperiority?

Cvijus011 said...

this is how I adress little stupid kids. Have you done your proper reading dardance?

I guess that you have some inferiority problems cause you think that everybody practices on you his racial superiority. Let's suppose I would like to buy you a beer, I bet you would say "I don't want you to buy me a beer cause you're practicing your racial superiority on me by doing that".

If you need help don't hesitate to ask.

Segas said...

to civijus the stupidus

you just showed your face when you mentioned Haradinaj, Thaqi and Qeku...and all the Albanians are aware of one thing that when these names are mentioned to servs its like the priest confronting a ghost...these three names are your nightmare immmigrant servs...whenever these three names are mentioned servs piss their pants...and that is pathetic my frien....
i got an advise for you stupidus cicvijus011us sllep with your light on!

Cvijus011 said...

sega,

"i got an advise for you stupidus cicvijus011us sllep with your light on!"

This is what siptars do when they have nothing intelligent to say, they just threat. It suits their primitive mentality.

Siptars shit in their pants when they think about Serbian police, Mladic, Milosevic, Arkan, etc etc.

I only have one advise to you my new Turko-Hunic-Avar-Mongol friend: Go home and play game at your Sega and when you get mature enough then come to talk.

Dardania 2006 said...

this is how I adress little stupid kids. Have you done your proper reading dardance?

I guess that you have some inferiority problems cause you think that everybody practices on you his racial superiority. Let's suppose I would like to buy you a beer, I bet you would say "I don't want you to buy me a beer cause you're practicing your racial superiority on me by doing that".

If you need help don't hesitate to ask.


yes, the complex is inferiority, to the great Serb... ;)

Need I say more?

This is what siptars do when they have nothing intelligent to say, they just threat. It suits their primitive mentality.

Siptars shit in their pants when they think about Serbian police, Mladic, Milosevic, Arkan, etc etc.

I only have one advise to you my new Turko-Hunic-Avar-Mongol friend: Go home and play game at your Sega and when you get mature enough then come to talk.


Again, need I say more?

Cvijus011 said...

dardance,

say better you have inferiority complexes because of your own personality and want to justify it on a national level. Come on, tell me, never got laid?

What should I say about Taci, ceku and Haradinaj, terrorists on power.

Segas said...

civijus servius stupidus gypsius ridicilous partial turk by blood...

As i said before Albanians are the real Europeans...I am not going to waste my time with you anymore...Servs are not a real slavic breed...serv women were pumped by the turks...have you noticed how servs look like they are som stupid race coming from Istanbul as they look greedy and obnoxious...whatever they see that might look like some stuopid S they claim it as their own, the turks do the same thing...Civijus the partial turk by blood. every single day servs are getting their asses kicked...i dont play sega you stupid loser. and if anyone is primitive is the servs. after all who has been arming their people to take over other countries for the last 15 years? who is the loser here? needless to say the big losers are the turk offspring which are the serfvs...

Cvijus011 said...

Now now sge, with the words you use you don't sound like the offspring of a civilized person, you sound more like a albanian. Ooops sorry, you realy are a albanian.

Hey you use the same rhetoric of Hitler. Ooops again, you were his allies :)

Hellenic-pride said...

hey cvijus011,

don't pay any attention for what segas is claiming to be the only european people. they just hadn't any real identity and then they imagined that they are illyrians so that by any weird coincencde the europeans would believe them. i doupt it. they are just a nation of thieves and druglords and illyrians-wannabees. when nobody else knows about their so-called culture it means it's not existing.

sega where did you learn to talk like that? in the sewer?

Hellenic-pride said...

oh i forgot. why are turkish and albanian sooooo similar?

Arber_Dardani said...

"Hellenic-Pride", maybe it is because Albanians and Turks look very much like Modern Day "Greeks".

Don't forget that the "Greek" War of Independence was basically a civil war fought between ethnic Albanians. Ethnic Albanians fighting for the Ottoman Porte were fighting against ethnic Albanians (Arvanites and Chams) fighting for their liberation from the Ottoman Empire.

It is funny reading what you have to say about the ethnic Albanians not having a history, when the fact of the matter is that you Modern Day "Greeks" are actually the children of "Hellenized" Albanians, Slavs, Turks, Vlachs, and Roma.

Of the Modern Day "Greeks", Paul Theroux said it best when he wrote:

"The whole of Greece seemed to me a cut-price theme park of broken marble, a place where you were harangued in a high-minded way about Ancient Greek culture while some swarthy little person picked your pocket . . .The Greeks were not Greek, but rather the illiterate descendants of Slavs and Albanian fishermen, who spoke a debased Greek dialect and had little interest in the broken columns and temples except as places to graze their sheep . . . the Greeks struck me as being more xenophobic than the French, and more ill-tempered and irrational, in a country more backward than Croatia . . . Greece is the degraded fringe of Europe, basically a peasant society, fortunate in its ruins and its selective memory . . . More than any other place I had seen so far on the Mediterranean, Greece was purely a tourist destination, a theme park of shattered marble and broken statues, and garbled history."

-- The Pillars of Hercules, A Grand Tour of The Mediterranean, by Paul Theroux, pp. 314-316, 322, G. P. Putnam's Sons (1995)

Oh and Mancow stated on his Chicago Radio show, the following about you Modern Day "Greeks":

"Keep your girlfriends away from Greeks because they walk up with their dirty open shirts, their gold jewelry hanging out, they put their hairy arms around your girlfriends and grab their breasts . . . all Greeks are con artists . . . all Greeks are scummy bastards."

-- The Mancow Show (Chicago Radio Program), 3/24/99

And the Sunday Times stated:

"The Greeks [have] become a bad-mannered, misogynist, lazy, self-important fat bunch"

-- The Sunday Times, 3/7/99

Dardania 2006 said...

Yes, Cvijus, me the poor Albanian is suffering from inferiority...please oh wise serb...teach me wisdom...

Segas said...

to civijus and his proud lover boy hellenic shame...
yes I am Albanian a direct decendant of Illyrians... who are you servian boy? you are a turk, your dady is a turk... hellennic pride shut up...Albanians have been kicking greek ass forever you dumb ass queer. starting from Achillies to present...
why dont you pathetic servs and greeks understand that Albanians are very strong now...for your information just about month ago there was a conference on transportation for the southeastern europe attending ministers of their respective countries from southeastern europe and out of all of them there were 3 Albanian ministers from 3 different countries, Albania, Macedonia and Kosova all of them representing their respective ministry of transportation... what do you say to that you morons? Albanians have taken the balkans now soon we will be a superpower in this area!hahahahahahahahhaha ...and you pathetic civijus we have given Mother Teresa, Scanderbeg the true saviour of Europe from the turks, Alan Sheppard an Albanian-American, first American to orbit earth and so on and so on...oh lets not forget Luan Krasniqi the boxer who kicks ass....what have the servs given to the international culture? or maybe they are just good at destroying it with tanks and other combat artillery...Albanians will soon be the Jews of the Balkans just like the Jews are in the middle east...

Kosova-re said...

Srbija do Tokija!
-Ma ne bre ko Nokia! Svake godine novi model...MANJA I MANJA

just in case you haven't read it, (from now on i'll try and post it everywhere) although the drama is unfolding right in front of your eyes. You're witnessing it but Serbs still aren't gettin' it!
But, ladies and gentlemen let's hear a round of applauseee for the magical, shrinking ... Srbijaaaa!
-And then you may repeat the joke again...