Wednesday, April 05, 2006

Arranging independence for Kosovo --- Diplomats encounter few easy solutions for isolated territory - The Wall Street Journal

By John W. Miller

5 April 2006
The Wall Street Journal Europe


(Copyright (c) 2006, Dow Jones & Company, Inc.)
Pristina, Kosovo -- AS EUROPEAN UNION and U.S. diplomats this week shepherded talks on a permanent status for Kosovo, the Serbian province where the North Atlantic Treaty Organization went to war in 1999, there was little doubt about the final outcome: independence.

Yet, there isn't much enthusiasm, especially in the EU, for creating an ethnically divided and poverty-stricken ministate in the most volatile corner of the Continent. It is just that diplomats now believe they have no choice. "The other alternatives are all worse," says Carl Bildt, a former special envoy to the Balkans for the European Union and the United Nations. "I expect a resolution by the end of the year."

The U.N. has administered Kosovo for six years, following a conflict that pitted Serbia against the ethnic Albanian separatists who dominate in Kosovo, and between the Serbian minority that wants to remain aligned with Christian Serbia rather than Muslim Kosovo.

Despite billions of dollars of international aid and security costs, the populations remain bitterly divided. The economy hasn't recovered, and Western governments have decided Kosovo's problems won't be fixed under international rule.

For Faik Halimaj, a 67-year-old Kosovar coal miner who lost five members of his family during the conflict, independence would be a dream come true that opens the prospect of joining the 25-nation EU. Like many Albanian Kosovars, he won't even consider remaining part of Serbia. "The best would be to join Europe," he says.

Diplomats acknowledge they are supporting Kosovo's independence reluctantly in the talks, which started in February. A round held in Vienna on Monday, to arrange a measure of self-government for ethnic Serbs within Kosovo, failed to produce a result. Diplomats also say independence wasn't the goal when the U.N. took control of the province in 1999. Then, the hope was that time would heal wounds and permit a solution that maintained national borders, as was accomplished in nearby Bosnia.

The Balkan wars of the 1990s followed the breakup of Yugoslavia, a collection of republics cobbled together after World War II that were dominated by Serbia. Montenegro and Serbia -- of which Kosovo is a part -- are all that remain of that federation. Serbian politicians have warned that independence in Kosovo, which Serbs consider their nation's birthplace, could trigger a nationalist backlash in the rest of the country. There are concerns, too, that independence could destabilize Kosovo's neighbor, Macedonia, another former Yugoslav republic that has a simmering conflict with its own ethnic Albanian minority.

Local Kosovar politics have if anything hardened over the past two years. The war is glorified here among ethnic Albanians. Businesses in small towns sell tombstones carved in the form of a life-size "freedom fighter" holding a rifle. In small cafes, Muslim men play cards under paintings of Bill Clinton, who was U.S. president when the decision to send NATO on its first military engagement was made.

Meanwhile, at a 14th century Serbian Orthodox monastery in Decani, near Kosovo's Western border with Albania, NATO soldiers from Italy keep their fingers on the trigger as visitors approach. They are protecting Father Sava Janjic and about 30 Serbian monks. Kosovo is "Serbia's home," Fr. Janjic says.

The EU has poured more than 2 billion euros ($2.4 billion) into Kosovo since 2000. Yet annual average per-capita income in Kosovo is just 1,230 euros, around 5% the level in Western Europe. Thirty-seven percent of the population lives below the poverty line of 1.42 euros a day; unemployment is around 35%; and infant-mortality rates are the highest in the region, according to the World Bank. Diplomats concede these conditions won't change until Kosovo's political status is resolved.

The province is cut off from the much wealthier economy around Belgrade, the Serbian capital. Customs and border controls are laborious for goods and people, and cars entering from Serbia change license plates at the border for fear of attack. "In a sense, Kosovo's main problem isn't independence, it's isolation," says Robert Cooper, the EU's director general for foreign affairs.

A power plant next to Mr. Halimaj's house in the grimy suburbs of the capital, Pristina, which burns local coal, could be renovated so it produces enough electricity for export, economists say. The province also has reserves of zinc, silver, copper and nickel. and the U.N. estimates mining could one day be the backbone of an improved Kosovo economy.

The foreign investment needed to develop its resources won't start to flow until Kosovo's political stability is assured, according to Erhard Busek. Mr. Busek is coordinator for the Stability Pact for South Eastern Europe, a regional treaty the EU set up to promote local free-trade agreements and other re-unifying programs in the Balkans.

46 comments:

Sami said...

Why do journalists still insist on trying to make this a religious conflict? I don't think Kosova can be described as "Muslim Kosova." These people haven't figured out that we are Albanian first and whatever else second. All we want is the independence that is rightly ours.

Anonymous said...

Here is your answer:

Kosovo: The real test of U.S. foreign policy
Posted: April 5, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Aleksandar Pavic
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

If you want to see a place where Christians are outside of the law on their own ancestral land – come to Kosovo.

If you want to see American troops committed to establishing a narco-Islamic state on Christian land – come to Kosovo.

If you want to see Christian churches, monasteries and cemeteries desecrated on an almost daily basis, under the noses of thousands of Western soldiers – look no further than Kosovo.

Seven years after William Jefferson Clinton launched a bombing campaign against a European Christian land in support of the Islamic terrorist Kosovo Liberation Army, it's as though the bombs have never stopped falling on the Christian remnant in Kosovo. Whether Clinton did it to divert attention from a burgeoning sex scandal, or whether it was part of a global anti-Christian campaign by Western liberals with a cultural death-wish, the results for the Kosovo Christians – and all non-Albanians in Kosovo – are the same.

And the U.S. State Department is doing everything to make sure it stays that way, with a strong supporting role of the United Nations, Britain and Germany.

That's right, the might and the resources of U.S. diplomacy are being used to tear away a Christian European nation's spiritual and historical cradle and hand it over to a terrorist-breeding, white-slavery peddling, heroin-pushing narco-Islamic camarilla in Kosovo, which has, by all accounts, made the province into "Afghanistan in Europe." During the current U.N.-brokered talks on Kosovo's "final status," U.S. diplomats are tirelessly promoting the "necessity" and "inevitability" of Kosovo's independence.

There are well over 1,000 Christian churches and monasteries in Kosovo, many filled with priceless medieval frescoes from the Byzantine era, in which Italian art historians have spotted the beginnings of the Renaissance about a century before it appeared in Western Europe. At least 150 have been destroyed by Muslim Albanian mobs since Clinton's post-bombing deployment of NATO "peacekeepers" in 1999. The rest are menaced on a daily basis. Those that are lucky enough to be protected have armed NATO troops and barbed wire around them.

In its drive to secure Kosovo's independence from Serbia, preferably by the end of 2006, U.S. (and U.N.) diplomacy has helped install Islamic hardliners to top Kosovo political posts – people with gallons of Christian (and Roma, and moderate Albanian) blood on their hands. It has supported the revocation of international arrest warrants against them, as in the case of new Kosovo "Prime Minister," Agim Ceku, a man whom Canadian U.N. troops wounded in Croatia in 1995 to stop a killing spree against unarmed Serbian villagers in another "U.N. protected area." Ceku had an Interpol warrant against him lifted in March "in line with his new duties of prime minister." And U.S. diplomacy brings other terrorists, such as Hashim Tachi, aka "the Snake," to Washington, D.C., as it did this January, to promote the cause of narco-Islam on Christian soil in the highest forums of American foreign policy.

Why?

It is said that more than 600 years ago, when the first news of the Battle of Kosovo came to Western Europe, telling of a victory of the Christian Serb army against the Ottoman Turks, the bells of Notre Dame cathedral in Paris rang out joyously in celebration.

Actually, this fierce battle on the Field of Blackbirds (the meaning of the name of Kosovo) ended in a draw, with both the Serbian Prince Lazar and the Turkish Sultan Murat being killed in battle. But the weakened Serbia, pressed from the north by the rival Hungarian kingdom, never recovered. It is then, as the story goes, that the bright red peonies that bloom by the millions each year on Kosovo's plains made their appearance, growing out of the soil consecrated by the spilt Christian blood. And it wasn't only Serbian blood that would be shed in the coming centuries. It was not until combined Slavic and German forces threw back the huge army commanded by Grand Vizier Kara Mustafa Pasha at the walls of Vienna in 1683 that the tide against Ottoman Turkey began to be turned back and the Christian West could finally breathe easier.

Now, 323 years later, the West's secularized elites are doing everything to help Islam – an especially aggressive and corrupt variety of it – make a big comeback in Europe, with the United States taking the leading role.

Why?

Some say that it is because the State Department, at least the part dealing with the Balkans, is still staffed with Clinton-era secular globalists pursuing their own agenda. But this cannot be an excuse for an administration that sees itself as Christian. We know what the Bible says about pragmatism when moral issues are at hand: Better that you are hot or cold than lukewarm, for you shall be spewed out like salt that has lost its flavor. And that's the present U.S. policy in Kosovo.

To what end this "pragmatism" (if that's what it is) except straight to Hell? There is no getting around it. Jesus said, "Whoever is not with me is against me." So, what of those who actively or passively give aid to the burning of His churches on Kosovo? What sayest thou, Christian soldiers?

Where were you when Christian Kosovo burned? Did you cry real tears and help, or give aid and comfort to His enemies? Take heed, Christian Americans: A great anti-Christian crime is currently being committed in your name on Christian Kosovo. You cannot say that you haven't been warned. Now it is up to you to do something.

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You cannot in good conscience support Kosovo's independence. For that shall mean its final destruction as a Christian land. What can you do? What is the only consequent Kosovo policy for American Christian policy makers? Demand that the destruction of churches, monasteries and cemeteries stop, that anti-Christian persecution stop, that Christian Serbs and other non-Albanians be allowed to return to their ancestral homes protected by their own armed forces. Help them renew their houses of worship, which were destroyed under the "protection" of U.S.-led international troops.

You can support Kosovo's autonomy within Serbia, with equal rights for all. But not independence for the Islamic narco-bosses running the place and their brand of anti-civilization. That's the current State Department agenda, the same as the agenda of the United Nations and European secularized, suicidal elites. That would be abomination. And, make no mistake, that would, ultimately, be the end of Christian America. For this crime will not be forgiven in the only place that counts.

Aleksandar Pavic covers the Balkans for WorldNetDaily.com.

Anonymous said...

What a huge load of ROT by Aleksandar Pavic, that slimey Serb Chetnik Piece of Pig Dung ...and I have only 3 things to say:


1/ Aleksandar Pavic is an Orthodox serb faschist and chauvanist RACIST and Eastern Religious Extremist.

2/ If he's so smart, I would like Aleksandar Pavic to honestly tell us all how long Serbs have lived on the territory called Kosova and how long Albanians have lived on this land.

3/ Also, I would like Aleksandar Pavic to tell everybody how long there have been "muslim" Albanians on this earth, how they became "muslim" and how "muslim" they actually are.


So curl up and croke all you Serb Faschisht, Chetnik, chauvanist, Terrorist Pigs.

p.s. and bye the way...Sebian Orthoxy is about as Christian as Islam is, it is only Christian in name. The Serbian Orthodox "Christian" does not live a Christian way of life AT ALL, in fact Orthodox Christians may as well be muslims (sorry - EXTREMIST MUSLIMS) because they have the same mentality - EASTERN!!

good bye

Anonymous said...

It is a fact that Albanians are leaving Islam in droves. They are returning to their European roots (away from the East) and this is terrifying serbia (serbs).

That is why serbs are playing the "Evil Muslim" card so much. They are trying to scare the mostly christian west in to not supporting us but the west knows how Islamic Albanians are (not much at all) and that we want to come back to our roots.

A message to all Albanians (True Albanians) out there...The further away from the East the closer we are to the West and to the complete liberty and re-unification of the motherland.

"mos shikoni kisha e xhamia se feja e Shqiptarit është Shqiptaria!"

fauna said...

There are more muslims in France and Germany then there are in Kosova.

The Serbs are really trying hard to make a connection between Albanians, Islam and terror.

You can see that they're hopeless.

Serbia -- get ready to shrink!

Anonymous said...

to anonymous:
"The further from the east the closer to the west" is not the answer. You shouldnt dny yourself the albanian culture of respecting other religions but we also must respect our own. Its absurd to try to distance yourself from something just because other will think that you are more civilised. Religion and politics DO NOT mix. Just because serbs do it we shouldnt. There are albanian catholics and orthodox but the majority is muslim and there is nothing that implicates being muslim makes one a terrorist. Every religion has as its first commandement not to kill another person. Only sick people like fundamentalists and serbian priests make religion look bad with their sanctioning of massacres and terror against another group. Serb priests have done this in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosova. First they came for the catholics then muslims and now they claim they are here to defend chritianity from secularism.

ivan said...

Siptari,

1. You really have no soul or pride. According to your story (which i doubt), when Ottomans ruled the lands, you were the first ones to give up Christ, so you could save on your taxes.

Now when being a muslim is not convenient for you your are giving up Islam to become Catholic.

Hey make up your mind, or is changing religions part of your culture.

2. Hearing all the stories that priests are terrorists, make me wonder how deperate you are. Are you trying to justify the fact that you burnd more than 130 churches?

Ok to be objective, I would like to ask you sipci, to give me one good source where it shows that priests really rape women (or encourage that), eat babies, play with the heads of the old people...etc.

I am asking sipci just for one good source.

Anonymous said...

FACT:

1/ serbian Orthodoxy = (same as Muslim Extremism!)

2/ serbian EXTREME Orthodoxy = Attrocities and/or(same as Satanism!)

cvijus said...

shqiptari,

Wow, really western way of thinking, religious hate, how european.

"Serb priests have done this in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosova"

And you have surely seen that, haven't you?

Ivan,

"I am asking sipci just for one good source."

Even this one source they are not able to find, don't expect too much from these "western" shqiptari

cvijus said...

Ivan,

"FACT:

1/ serbian Orthodoxy = (same as Muslim Extremism!)

2/ serbian EXTREME Orthodoxy = Attrocities and/or(same as Satanism!)"

You see? No credible source, just the regular shqiptar bullshit

ivan said...

It is really sad to hate one religion without any real proof. Its a sin, or haram to our muslim friends.

What makes it even worse, is that they direspect the religion of the albanians who claim themseleves to be Orthodox. They burn their churches and they spit on the Christ.

Siptari where is your soul?

Anonymous said...

To anonymous,

what's this, "we should respect our own"??? By this I believe you are saying islam.

Hey dude, islam can belong to anyone and everyone if they want to. It's a friggen reigion man and you can change your religion 10 times aday if you want. There's one thing you can't change and that's your blood and your family/relatives and we're a WHOLE lot closer to Europeans than we are to arabs. And by the way, islam has only been a part of Albanians history for 150 to 400 years, meaning that it only became more prevalent amongst Albanians in the last 150 years. I mean, we fought it off as much as we could, but the Ottomans were powerful and we did not have any powerful allies throughout the dark period of Ottoman rule (occupation) to help us.

LET US BE HONEST NOW my friend, it can only be good for us, believe me and you may say that I am denying something which is mine (which I totally refute, because although the last 10 generations of our family could be considered as being of the muslim faith, we can also recall the names of a few of our Christian forefathers before we were drawn in to islam and I have never called myself a muslim. Simply put, I am an Albanian and then a European, nothing else.)but it is you who is denying the truth pal.

Çohuni Shqiptar Çohuni!

fauna said...

ivan & cvijus,
are you ready to shrink?

ivan said...

fauna,

whats your religion (if you have one ;))

Anonymous said...

Sewerbians, you wanted a link , here is one. I hope you speak sewerbian cause the priest surely does.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4810259667885234689&pl=true

Anonymous said...

"Hey dude, islam can belong to anyone and everyone if they want to. It's a friggen reigion man and you can change your religion 10 times aday if you want. There's one thing you can't change and that's your blood and your family/relatives and we're a WHOLE lot closer to Europeans than we are to arabs. And by the way, islam has only been a part of Albanians history for 150 to 400 years, meaning that it only became more prevalent amongst Albanians in the last 150 years. I mean, we fought it off as much as we could, but the Ottomans were powerful and we did not have any powerful allies throughout the dark period of Ottoman rule (occupation) to help us."

I do agree with you on the point that religion can be changed. What I am saying is you should respect what a large portion of albanians genuinely beleive. It is not Ok when something is unpopular to discard just like that. That proves that you have no respect for neither. If religion is of no issue for you then so be it but do not generalize as it sounds stupid. No one can take from you the fact that albanians are european, but being european has nothing to do with religion.

cvijus said...

"Sewerbians, you wanted a link , here is one. I hope you speak sewerbian cause the priest surely does.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4810259667885234689&pl=true"

Shitptari,

the key words that the bishop said were "Serbs have to defend their homes from the Ustasa terror", relating to what Franjo Tudjman once wrote "Thank God my wife isn't Jew nor Serbian" and "the existance of the Ustasa regime was justified". Now I don't see the bishop calling for murders, just defence and surely I don't see him raping, killing, etc. find me a better source.

Also, for those of you sympathizing with the Croats and how they suffered from Orthodox Priests, here's a nice link for you to read:

http://www.pavelicpapers.com/documents/filipovic/

Does this relate to Christianity?

Enjoy

Anonymous said...

I too say thank God my wife is not a Serb. So, how does that relate to you creating the "western serb state of Krajina" by ethnically cleansing and killing Croats? Cut the BS, you started the whole thing and Tudjman turned to be your penicilin.

Here is another good one from the series (no need to ague, Serbs say things in their own words): http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3479696319354421463&pl=true

For Ivan and Cvijus, apparantly Seselj thinks that if you lose your lands now, you will lose them forever. There is hope though, he also thought that Serbs should destroy Croatian army and a couple of months later Oluja happenned.

Anonymous said...

People,

What are you waiting, write to Wall Street Journal. Influential people read the jounal and it has bigger calculation that Mostert loser. Don't let them shape the debate as a West and East thing because both Islam and and Othodoxy are eastern religions known for their incompatiblity with liberal Western ideas coming from Englightment. No wonder Serbia, Russia, and Saudi Arabia have been having a hard time with democracy. Also, only 10% of Serbs go to churh according to their own data. They don't care about religion, though their medieval mindset of occupation and state-church relationship is still there. Albanians are hardly religous too and our fight is nationalistic rather than something else.

Write to WSJ!

Mir said...

"Also, only 10% of Serbs go to churh according to their own data"

Really. If you are referring to the fact that most Serbs dont obsessively go to church every Sunday then you are right but otherwise I would like to see your *I mean OUR* 'data'.

Anonymous said...

shkije..are u ready to shrink..answer the man!?

Anonymous said...

Mir, for Christmas it's so hip to go to church that even Muslim Albanians do it nowadays :). Regular weekly attendance in Serbia is 7%. The number is from 1995-1997 World Values Survey.

http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_48.html

Mass at the Decani monastery, one of the three important Serb religious sites in Kosova, according to monastery people itself was exactly 10 people before the war.
http://www.incommunion.org/articles/older-issues/the-serbian-orthodox-church

Anonymous said...

At 12:00 PM, ivan said...
Siptari,

1. You really have no soul or pride. . . .



But we got KOSOVA biatch your motherland and shit. Yeap, and we are all dancing in that same field "where brave Serb soldiers died!" Man that is an oxymoron if I ever heard one. "brave serb soliders" it even sounds stupid.

Anyways, back to dancing.

Michael Petersen said...

All religions are good. And there is not the religion that is the problem but the people who represent it, and mix religion with politics, like Serbs have done. Killed tenths of thousands catholics in Croatia.

Serbs have killed more Christians than Albanians have ever done or will do.

Mir said...

"But we got KOSOVA biatch your motherland and shit."

Lol maybe spirtually and historically but Vojvodina is much more important resource-wise.

Mir said...

"Mir, for Christmas it's so hip to go to church that even Muslim Albanians do it nowadays :). Regular weekly attendance in Serbia is 7%. The number is from 1995-1997 World Values Survey.

http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_48.html

Mass at the Decani monastery, one of the three important Serb religious sites in Kosova, according to monastery people itself was exactly 10 people before the war.
http://www.incommunion.org/articles/older-issues/the-serbian-orthodox-church"

Thank you for the links.

Independence for Kosova said...

"Lol maybe spirtually and historically but Vojvodina is much more important resource-wise."

Smart thinking, you better start making some propaganda son so that you can claim something for Vojvodina before its taken away. So there are some churches in Kosova and you claim it your "holy land" well last time I checked there were mosques in Serbia, this was before "pure, innocent, abused serbs" blazed them..so umm yea Serbia is holy land to Kosova..we want to partition serbia and join it with its true owners--us..LMAO just playing..I dont want serbia..you can keep it, we dont have the man power to build jails to jail all the criminals there. haha

ivan said...

fauna,

whats wrong no answer about your own religion?

siptari this just proves the point of what kind of people you are. Ashemed of your own existance. According to your own stories, first you were the famous illyrians, then you inherited Christianity, then the Ottomans came and you switched your religion, and now since its not cool anymore to be muslim you are converting to catholicism so you can get more points from the West. Man you are changing religions more than you change your socks. :o)

As for the priests commiting mruders, in your sources i havent heard one word from a priest where he calls on people to kill innocent ones. HE is calling on defence, and if that is a crime, then all of you bloggers should be serving a death sentance.

But its so easy to manipulate people who change their religion out of interest.

Anonymous said...

cvijus said...
Even this one source they are not able to find, don't expect too much from these "western" shqiptari

A COUPLE OF HOURS LATER...

At 1:30 PM, cvijus said...
find me a better source.

HHAHAHAHA - Retard, it's not the quality of the source that was given to you that wasn't good - it's your brain that is washed. Just to refresh your memory - A couple of month ago the whole world saw in their TVs how a priest blessed Serb chetniks to kill three handcuffed young civilians in Bosnia - shooting them in the back. What do you say to that? Maybe you need better evidence - I mean shit happens, it can be Anti-Serb propaganda.

cvijus said...

ivan,

don't worry. If the global circumstances require it, the shitptars will convert to Orthodoxy.

shitptars,

your sources are really phenomenal. I asked to find me something where it can be clearly be seen how a Serbian priest rapes, kills, etc. All you find me is a priest calling for defence and Seselj calling for the unification of the western Serbian lands. Nowhere do I kill calling for killing, raping etc.

Is it so hard to find me ONE GOOD SOURCE? Or maybe you're too stupid for that?

Also, you talk about how we accuse you of being extremists, etc and you believe it isn't true. But look at what are you posting, nothing but excessive hate to the Serbian Orthodox Church, calling it satanist. Note that Al Quaeda and co. base their actions on the same logics - satanizing Christianity. You don't have to be Islamists, but the way of thinking makes you also radical and extremists - your opsessive hate to the SPC. Also don't think that Al Quaeda characterizes itself as extremist.

"A couple of month ago the whole world saw in their TVs how a priest blessed Serb chetniks to kill three handcuffed young civilians in Bosnia - shooting them in the back"

Source please? Somehow we missed it here in Germany.

And for the shitptar that said he is happy his wife is not Serbian, that is a very pro-western way of thinking.

Have a nice day shitptari

ivan said...

"A couple of month ago the whole world saw in their TVs how a priest blessed Serb chetniks to kill three handcuffed young civilians in Bosnia - shooting them in the back"

Check again:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8085091/

I dont see any priests.

You siptars seem to be making BS as you please.

Please siptari give me a source where the Serbian Orthodox prisets blessed the killing of women, children and innocent.

Anonymous said...

"http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8085091/"

I don't see any priest blessing, or even killing, raping, etc.

Anonymous said...

"Naturally, the common people don't want war ... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."-Herman Goering

The serb church used this logic to get serbs to rape, pillage and massmurder.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=387206462126274734&pl=true

ivan said...

Anonymous,

and what does this prove. The Serbian Orthodox priest saying that we should never forget what has been done to us. Does this mean kill all of the innocent children?

Maybe to your twisted mind, but not to mine.


Siptari you all seem to be bringing the sources where you make wild assumptions. Like the priest said we are the victims, and then he actually meant kill all the women and children that are not serbian.

I am asking for a source where it can be clearly seen that a Serbian Orthodox priest blessed the killing of innocent children , women, old, and men. Is that so hard? I mean you are so convinced in your hate towards the Serbian Orthodox Church, you should have some solid evidence for that hate.

I am waiting siptari.....

cvijus said...

"Naturally, the common people don't want war ... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country."-Herman Goering

nice logic to be used to explain to what shitptars have done to Serbs ana Serbian churches in March '04

One question: If you say that I don't like my neighbor automatically means, according to the shtptar logic, that I have to kill him and torch his house?

Anonymous said...

I dont know what serb rapists think when it comes to their neighbours. One thing is for sure, if you are armed they will run like the pussies that they are no matter the number or weapons they might have.

Cvijus011 said...

"I dont know what serb rapists think when it comes to their neighbours. One thing is for sure, if you are armed they will run like the pussies that they are no matter the number or weapons they might have."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Couldn't expect a different (intelligent) answer from a shitptar. Be let me tell you one thing, whatever you say about us you have showed your real face to us and to the whole wide world in March '04 when hordes of armed shitptars attacked unarmed Serbian civilians. You showed extreme amount of bravery by destroying churches, it is indeed courageus to hit stones, not to mention a very intelligent thing.

YOu don't even want me to mention what bravery shitptars showed with such events as in Gorazdevac. It is so brave to attack children while they bathe.

Anonymous said...

Children bathing is your speciality. Why do you think no one caught those people? Serb spy services are working today in kosova with the help of your brethren the greeks and the french. And I am sure you have killed many of your own like the bus that exploded in the border with Kosova and you blamed us for it.

Cvijus011 said...

And I also suppose that the British and Yank secret services together with the UCK terrorists have killed those 10k shitptars, not even to mention kikking out 500k shitptars from Kosovo-Metohija during the NATO bombing, just to show that Serbs are supposivelly bad.

I like you fantasies. Very intelligent, typical shitptar

Anonymous said...

Sewerbian, thos are the exact words of your now "killed by the Hague" president when answering accusations about massacres in Kosova. He also said that it was the serb opposition who helped in transporting those bodies to serbia.

Anonymous said...

Oh and here is the link of your priest being all peaceloving as they always were.
http://www-tc.pbs.org/media/frontlineworld/srebrenica_lo.mov?mii=1

Anonymous said...

cvijus said...
"A couple of month ago the whole world saw in their TVs how a priest blessed Serb chetniks to kill three handcuffed young civilians in Bosnia - shooting them in the back"

Source please? Somehow we missed it here in Germany.

HERE IS YOUR SOURCE. CAN YOU BELIEVE IT NOW? DO YOU JUST SEE HOW DARK IS WHERE YOU LIVE? EVEN YOUR PRESIDENT IS DISGUSTED BY YOUR RACE.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4605223.stm

T.A.McKellips said...

T.A.MCKELLIPS,
I MAY BE JUST A STUPID AMERICAN THAT DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF THE BALKANS, SO I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ANYONE OUT THERE THAT CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION FOR ME.THE WAY I UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY OF THIS PROVENCE IS THAT SERBS LIVED THERE FOR THOUSAND YEARS AND HAVE THE CHURCHES, MONASTARIES AND HISTORICAL MONUMENTS TO PROVE THAT FACT. THE WHOLE WORLD CLAIMS THAT SERBS HAVE ETHNICALY CLEANSED THE AREA OF THE MINORITY ALBANIANS THAT ALSO CLAIM TO HAVE LIVED THERE. SO HOW DID THE SERBS BECOME MINORITY THEN, AND ALBANIANS MAJORITY. THIS IS THE QUESTION THAT HAS ELUDED ME ALL THIS TIME AND I WOULD LOVE AND APPRECIATE IF ANYONE OUT THERE CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION FOR ME. THANK YOU AND HAVE A NICE DAY.
T.A. MCKELLIPS

Mir said...

Your guess to the answer is as good as mine.

Anonymous said...

T.A Mckellips do you think we in this board are entirely stupid. Firstly you can't spell and secondly your question is kind of full of innuendo about what serbs claim in the first place. If you serbs are going to impersonate someone at least learn the fucking language.

Anonymous said...

From reading all the previous comments, it sounds funny how Serbs still don't realize that the world, including Kosovar Albanians, are going foreward, not backward. The Milosevic era is OVER forever, and Serbs should not live believing that one day, the great Serb leader, who "unfortunately" died few weeks ago, will make the Serbian dream - The Great ethnic Serbia, come true.
Too bad for the Serbs who still live in the shadows of the propaganda that their dead leader left behind.
Instead of thinking about the past, Serbs, like Albanians are doing, should think about the future-about a future that they will have to share with the Albanians and the rest of the world.
As about Mr. Pavic and others who think like he does, too bad for that media he works for. I am wondering who reads his stupid-immature comments about other people. He defenitaly doesn't deserve to be a journalist. However, Mr. Pavic is a perfect example for the world to show how backward the Serbs are and why they will never be a successsful nation.
As about my follow Kosovar Albanians, my message is: try not to use BS language because that is not our cultural value-that belongs to the Serbian nationalists. The world already knows what some Serbs did and there is no way Serbs can defend their crimes that are usually compared to that of Natzi. And, I don't want to forget, the world, leading with the closest Kosova's friend, the U.S., has already accepted the independece of Kosova.
All of you who will read this, including the Serbs, are invited to the biggest world's party ever - Celebration of Kosova's independence. (Free food for all!)

A Kosovar-Albanian who susrvided the war