Saturday, February 04, 2006

Parallels with Kosovo "irrelevant" says Georgian official

Text of report by Russian news agency RIA Novosti

Istanbul, 4 February: Georgian Deputy Foreign Minister Valeri Chechelashvili sees no direct link between the recent gas crisis in his country and a possible radical decision of the Georgian parliament on the [Russian] peacekeeping mission in South Ossetia.

"I would not look for a direct link between the recent gas crisis in Georgia and a possible radical decision of the Georgian parliament on the peacekeeping mission in South Ossetia," Chechelashvili said in an interview to RIA Novosti. According to him, "it is the quality of Russian-Georgian cooperation in settling the South Ossetia and Abkhazia conflicts that can affect the Georgian parliament's decision".

Chechelashvili noted that on 7 February several Georgian ministers would submit their reports on the efficiency of the peacekeeping mission in South Ossetia to a joint meeting of the Georgian parliament's Foreign Relations Committee and Defence and Security Committee. The meeting will be attended by the minister [of state] for the settlement of conflicts and the ministers of defence, internal affairs and foreign affairs. "The meeting will be closed. Therefore, it would be incorrect to make premature comments on the final outcome of the parliamentary debate," Chechelashvili said.

Answering a question about some analysts' opinions that Georgia could try to resolve the conflicts by force, Chechelashvili said: "We have done so much work to convince the international community, including Russia, to support Georgia's peace plan that none of our partners, except Russia, has any doubts that our government is fully committed to a peaceful resolution of the conflict".

Commenting on the prospects for the continued presence of the Russian peacekeepers in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict zone, Chechelashvili noted: "There are no Russian peacekeepers in Nagornyy Karabakh, but the situation there is more stable".

Answering the agency's question on whether or not a possible settlement in Kosovo could serve as a model for the Abkhazia conflict, Chechelashvili said: "These are two completely different things". "The question of Kosovo's status cannot be used as a model for the settlement of other conflicts. In particular, we consider parallels to Georgia's conflicts as completely irrelevant, if only because in Kosovo there was an ethnic cleansing of the Albanians while in Abkhazia there was an ethnic cleansing of the Georgians. This is confirmed by OSCE documents as well," he said.

Commenting on the recent resolution of the UN Security Council on the extension of the mandate of UN monitors in Abkhazia for two months [instead of the usual six months], Chechelashvili said that "it was a forced decision because the UN Security Council could not agree on the text of the resolution 'On Abkhazia (Georgia)'". According to Chechelashvili, the disagreement was caused by a radical change in the position of Russia, which refused to support the resolution's paragraph that "the status of Abkhazia should be defined within a united Georgian state".

Source: RIA Novosti, Moscow, in Russian 1359 gmt 4 Feb 06

12 comments:

Anonymous said...

To all people who seek the truth of these issues of ours.

Ask yourself the following question: why do Albanians seek independence from Serbia? Your response is probably typical – self-determination. Well, its not self-determination that guides the actions of your fellow Albanians…it’s something truly evil; something inherent, a disease passed down from your relatives and something that remains with every future generation of the Kosovo Albanian people. The basis of your actions if fascism.
Mussolini's Italy occupied Albania proper in April, 1939, and established a collaborationist regime with the apparent enthusiasm of most Albanians.(1) After Hitler invaded and occupied Yugoslavia in spring 1941, the bulk of current Kosovo-Metohija was placed under Italian-Albanian collaborationist control and annexed to Albania.(2)
When Italian forces moved into Kosovo they were accompanied by Albanians from Albania. Albanians living in Kosovo joined the invasion force as it made its way North and West, and also ambushed Yugoslav Army units moving to meet the invaders. These Albanians, natives of both Albania and Kosovo, instituted a campaign of murder and expulsion of Serbs. Initially, the mayhem was carried out by disorganized "kachak" (irregular) units. These were Albanian brigands from both sides of the border who had fought Yugoslavia throughout the 1920s and 1930s.(3) However, soon a native Kosovo militia was formed. This militia, called the Vulnetari, and various gendarme units, began more systematic persecution.(4)
"The Serbian population in Kosovo should be removed as soon as possible. Serbian settlers should be killed." (Albanian fascist leader Mustafa Kroja, June 1942.)
"The Serbian population of Kosovo should be removed as soon as possible . . . All indigenous Serbs should be qualified as colonists and as such, via the Albanian and Italian governments, be sent to concentration camps in Albania. Serbian settlers should be killed." (Dr. Slavenko Terzic, Kosovo, Serbian Issue and the Greater Albania Project.)

(1) Professor Nikalaos A. Stavrou, KFOR: Repeating History, The Washington Times (August 11, 1999).
(2) Hugo Wolf, Kosovo Origins (1996) chapter 10. Portions of northern Kosovo, from Mitrovica to the provincial border with Serbia, were administered by Germany from the outset, primarily to exploit the mines in the area. An eastern sliver of Kosovo was ceded to Bulgaria.
(3) Dr. Smilja Avramov, Genocide in Yugoslavia, Part 2, Chapter 5, "Genocide in Kosovo and Metohija" (1995): "The crimes were begun by the ‘kachak’ guerrilla detachments which had been sent into Kosovo from Albania, but members of the Shqiptar minority quickly joined in. Judging from Italian reports, at first the situation resembled more the marauding of bandits than a deliberate policy."
(4) Dr. Dusan Batakovic, The Kosovo Chronicles (1992); Avramov, supra.

Please visit http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/thompson/rootsof.htm for more helpful information on these issues. I hope this site will enlighten you in the evil your people are doing and have done to the indigenous Serbian population. Thanks, all the best in your research.

Anonymous said...

The fact that Jared ISRAEL has talked with Milosevic is the proof that this guy does not honour his grade at the Harvard University. The whole international community is saying that Milosevic probably is the orchester of all that stuff and all that guy finds to do is to go and talk to him by phone…

(…)Note added May 8, 2005: In 2001 and 2002 I devoted much of my time and energy to the international defense of Milosevic. In 2004, following a great deal of conflict in the Milosevic defense committee, which I had been co-leading, I had several hours of phone conversations with Milosevic. Those conversations, and my experience in the Milosevic support committee, have led me to conclude that I had originally misunderstood the role Milosevic played in the breakup of Yugoslavia(…)

You know, I'm studying now in Geneva and I'm quite used to give my papers to the assitants with footnotes but normally they have to be written by my own hand and not copiyed in an internet site which has strictly no legitimity.

It reminds me those french lawyers who love to fight for desperate causes just for glory, Saddam, Milosevic, and all the serial killers of France but this is an analogy that I'll not try to do…


Heku

Anonymous said...

I don't see any parallels with Georgia here..!?

Here are my anwsers: 1) As Jared says: there was no organized crimes from a democratically elected government but rather gangs taking revenge for the horrible crimes that Serbs had done since 1913. The undoing of the colonization program of Serbia was a noble cause and I fully support the actions of the guerrilla but nevertheless in no way did they represent the people like Milosevic did, in no way were they democratically elected like Milosevic was over and over, and in no way was their policy a plan of the academy of sciences and biggest intellectuals. The fact is that Serb state was and is rotten at its very heart and trying to equalize crimes won't do you any good, my friend.

Anonymous said...

Every week there is a new serb that tries to convince itself that the serbs are the victims.I am not going to bother to post anymore the detailed plans of Nacertania,or Cubrilovic's plan The Expulsion of the Albanians or the Sejsel's plan,everything has been posted in other blogs.If you Ziggy Miloshitevic cannot see the evil in 4 wars and 250,000 victims that serbia caused then the albanians should not forgive but vendicate.We should kill 10,000 serbs and deport 90% of your population.Only then you you might have some moral rights to bitch about it. Till then Serbs are in a worse position the the german nazis.

Anonymous said...

To Mir.
Don't try to give my words a spin.You are the psychotic one but since there are still people that think that the six million jews deserved to die there will be for sure serbs that think that the 10,000 albanians that died and the rest of them that were deported deserved all of it.Is it so hard for you to understand why are you worse then the nazis? WWII hapend 60 years ago,in this 60 years the hole world condemned the ethnic cleansing ,the concentration camps,the masive graves with the hope that the people will get more civilized and will never do such a terrible thing.But in the balkans there is a bloodthirsty nation called the serbian nation that will bring all the horror of the concentation camps,masive gaves,mass deportation,infanticide even after 60 years of WWII.Nothing will had stoped serbs of reaching the 6 million victims if the international comunity hadn't intervened in Bosnia and Kosova.
To cvijus
Don't write "I for a difference can ADMIT AND EXPRESS MY SORROW for what Serbian individuals did to your nation" because that is pure hipocrisy.There werent individuals it was a hole organized army and police force.That Individual is YOU,who are calling the KLA Terrorists while the whole war machine that cause 4 wars and 250,000 victims is just some individual for you.The number of serbian victims by the hand of the albanians is minuscule compared to the albanians killed by the serbian war machine.
50k Serbs from Skadar/Shkoder murdered or expelled.Even in the wildest dreams of a serb there have never been 50k serbs in Shkodra.But keep throwing your BS because you compatriots are going to believe it for sure.

whereas you just continue bitching and reject any singly cooperation with the Serbs, driven by you stereotypes and blind hate and that my friend is the way opposite of the EU.

Are you for real man? Do you even know that the serbs have boicoted all the institution in Kosova.You serbs should know very well the opposite way to EU.Your government has been warned many time to choose between Brusels or Belarus.

Anonymous said...

Cvijus
"here are the results of albanian heroism, albos enjoy it and be proud of it:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.srpskapolitika.com/zlocin/ovk2-novosti.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.srpskapolitika.com/zlocin/foto-arhiva.html&h=350&w=500&sz=33&tbnid=Hzvtlxicop9LrM:&tbnh=88&tbnw=127&hl=en&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAlbanski%2Bzlocini%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG

talking about heroes"

My only comment to this is that this only shows how immoral psychotic nation you are, who would do anything, anything to achive your sickening, inhuman ruthless ideas.

You are one of a kind for one thing: Killing and brutalizing your own people including your own kids and than blame someone else for it just to prove your point.
Sickening and inhuman like I said.
This is what you monsters belive in:
"Vise puta ponovljena laz postaje istina"
Go and play these games somewhere else you sick idiot

Albani

Anonymous said...

Could someone please asist me in one question, what is the difference between milosevic (serb)actions during the 90s and hitler (german) actions during ww2??

dont get all heated now..I see alot of stupid things in this page..dont contribute to more..answer sincerely with clearly stated arguments..

/With respect
James Macnillan

Anonymous said...

Cvijus,

Those pictures are doctored and have been circulating around extremist Serb websites for years now. I think it all started with a Serb newspaper in Nis. Nothing new, just taking the preconceptions of mujahideen, some Photoshop skills, and applying it to Kosova.
If there was any truth in the story, you would expect Hague on be on its tracks by know, don't you?

Anonymous said...

MacNillan,

Let's leave Jews, Hitler, Holocaust, etc. out of this issue just to respect WWII victims and also to respect ours. The fact that not as many Albanians died as Jews is not a cause for celebration but for sorrow for making just such a comparison.

Theoretically the methods and procedures of Serbs and Milosevic and Hitler and Germany were the same (except the scale): victimization of oneself, "world is against us", "we've been suffering for ages", and our neighbhors are at fault and must pay for this. Denial among Serbs is stronger than in Germany but that may change with decades. The call for a renewal of the gloried past, the hysteria and democratic election that led to both leaders is very similar, also.
I think Serbs were a little bit more shameful of the acts, especially in Kosova due to world media following, something that was scarce in WWII and in previous Albanian-Serb conflicts. That's why Srebrenica was not repeated in Kosova; although this does not assure us that that regime (whatever you want to include in it) did not have the capacity for industrial-level barbarity. In future Albanian-Serbian dialogue, both sides must work from the pespective that with Operation Horseshoe (that was applied from March 1999) the Albanian character of Kosova was going to be changed in a way as to raise the least public outcry. Should we be happy that the plan wasn't finished? Not really, because the danger is there and that under the right geopolitical conditions an even more horrible plan will be resurrected.

So, I say, leave dead jews pray in peace and treat Serb state with outmost suspicion until you have the military backing to counteract any threat.

Anonymous said...

Ivan,Cvijus, Mir and your barabaric nation:

"Why is it barbaric what Cvijus is showing you? is it because it turns your stomach upside down? Well let me tell you, its your heroes that did this, the ones you are so proud of. IS it barbaric from Cvijus that now he has hit your core values?"

Difference between us and you and your barbaric nation:

Don’t you think we are aware of massacres that your people carried out and I’m not just talking about Kosovo, you know this anyway coz you are the ones who carried out the massacres therefore I’m sure you guys have tones of those pictures and videos that you are taking pride off by showing them here.

You are scratching a wound that hasn’t evens started to heal and I’m sure yet again you are doing it on purpose and taking pride of it, its in your blood it has always been and it will always be therefore we will live and grow strong and never forget that next door we have a nation the brutalized and massacred our people for centuries something that the whole world has witnessed and you my friend you gonna live with the fact that you belong to one of the most barbaric nation that history has seen it will hurt and haunt you till you seize to exist

Albani

Anonymous said...

Homie,

Since when does Albani represent the Albanian people?

Serbia offering electiricity is not that simple. What they are offering is to let Elktroprivreda Serbije manage the situation. In other words, KEK should cede operations of its network where Serb lives to Serbia.
My friend, you probably have shit for your brains otherwise you would notice that Serbia is using freezing of Serb hostpitals and schools to get back in Kosova - K-Serbs are pawns of Belgrade it's that simple. Thank's God it's the Germans and the British in KEK that are making the decisions and not Albanians because you would make me feel guilty.

Anonymous said...

Ivane,

It wasn't Albanians that took the decision. Please contact KEK to see who manages it.