BELGRADE, Serbia-Montenegro (AP) - Serbian police detained nine people Wednesday on suspicion of taking part in a 1999 massacre of four dozen ethnic Albanians in southwestern Kosovo, prosecutors said.
The suspects, including six Serbian policemen, appeared before an investigative judge and prosecutors asked for a month's detention pending formal charges, said Snezana Malovic of Serbia's war crimes prosecutors office. Malovic did not identify the suspects.
The detentions marked a watershed since Serbs who fought ethnic Albanians in Kosovo are still revered by many as war heroes.
But pressure from human rights groups prompted Belgrade to launch an investigation, both in Serbia and Kosovo, to determine who is to blame. Over 60 witnesses, including ethnic Albanians in Kosovo, have been questioned in the investigation.
The 48 victims of the Suva Reka massacre -- among them 14 children, two babies, a pregnant woman and a 100-year-old woman -- were among hundreds of ethnic Albanians killed during the war in Kosovo whose bodies were later transported to Serbia.
They were dumped in mass graves near a high security police facility at Batajnica outside Belgrade, the Serbian capital. Autopsies showed the victims were executed.
The massacre is the first war crimes case in Serbia related to the mass graves discovered after Slobodan Milosevic's ouster. The victims' identities were established through DNA analysis and their remains have since been returned to families in Kosovo.
The United Nations has administered Kosovo since NATO's 1999 air war against Yugoslavia that forced Milosevic to end a crackdown on rebel ethnic Albanians in Kosovo.
An estimated 835 ethnic Albanians, many of them women and children, were buried in three mass graves in central Serbia during the war.
Pro-Western Serbian authorities revealed the locations of mass graves, including Batajnica, in 2001 -- the year Milosevic was handed over to the U.N. war crimes court at The Hague, Netherlands.
Hundreds of bodies have since been unearthed and returned to families in Kosovo.
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Good start!
To my friends out there who say that Belgrade is offering Kosovo self-governance.
1. Belgrade is not in a position to offer Kosovo anything. Kosovo is a UN protectorate where the Kosovar govt. is gaining power increasingly from the UN. Kosovo is self-governed.
2. The people in Kosovo should decide about their future, not Belgrade.
3. Kosovo has never been legally part of Serbia. Kosovo was occupied by Serbia in 1912, but never became legally part of Serbia. Kosovo was legally part of Yugoslavia, which doesnt exist anymore. And this is one of the reasons it should be independent.
4. Kosovars can't trust living under the same roof with Serbia anymore. Serbia has murdered, burned their houses and expelled Albanians every time it had a chance.
In 1878 when Serbia occupied what is now its southern territory, they expelled all Albanians from those regions. Those who resisted were killed. Thousands of women, children and old people died on the way, because it was one of the coldest winter ever. Albanian villages disappeared from the map.
In 1912 some of the worst massacres happened against the Albanian population. People were burnt in stakes. Villages razed to the ground. Some 20,000 people were killed.
In 1918-20 when Yugoslav forces occupied Kosovo again after WWI, same thing happened to Albanians.
Between two world wars, hundreds of thousands of Albanians were forced to leave for Turkey, after being labeled "turks".
After WWII when Kosovo was occupied by Yugoslav forces again, Some of the worst atrocities happened. Albanians who fought as partisans were killed en masse. Even though communists promised that Kosovo will be an equal entity to other Yugoslav entities the promise was not kept.
In 1956/1957 tens of thousand of Albanians were killed and brutalized by Serbian police under Rankovic. That is known as the long winter. The cold winter again was used by Serbs to torture Albanians by soaking them in water and leaving them outside in the cold.
Again tens of thousands were forced to leave for Turkey, especially after their lands were confiscated by the "communist" regime.
The life in the 1990ies was so bad that it was impossible to imagine that things like that would happen in Europe. It was worse than the apartheid in South Africa.
The murder of babies and women in the last war is known. Some 200000 villages were razed to the ground in 1998/1999. Some 1.5 million Albanians had to leave their homes.
What do you think should we go under Serbian rule, now that we are free from Serbian opression for the first time in 100 years?
Not 200,000 villages, but 200,000 houses. Sorry for the typo.
hahahahah WHAT A LIAR!!!! KOSOVO WAS NEVER EVER ALBANIAN only once for 4 years when Hitelr gave it to you for your loyalty to him. I mena you Albaniacs are so funny when every single one of these articel u post here begins with (even on a PRO ALBO SITE!!!!) with "Kosovo LEGALLY part of SERBIA!)HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT A BUNCH OF IDIOTS who are trying to sound as if you have any clue about antion building. u are right the people of each country have the right to determine what happens to them, so the people of SERBIA should decide what happens with their provence of KOSOVO (hahaha SErbian word picke vi znate moj jezik ko zna vas ovce smrdljive!) dude look at any map in the world look at even teh bullshit propaganda taht noel malcom and tim judah write up EVERYWHERE IT STATES THE FOLLOWING kosovo has been part of SERBIA! up to the start of the 20th cen. it was always vast majority SERBIAN for 1000 years!!! THE REAL GENOCIDE IN KOSOVO WAS COMMITED BY FANATICAL MUSLIMS WHO CLEANSED OUT ALLLLLL SERBS FROM KOSOVO ww1 ww2 150k, during the 70s 80s hundreds of thousand pressured to leave and in 99 250k who will never go back, that is teh real genocide ok, yes both sides always fought each toehr bu the reality on the ground is that the ALBANIACS KICKED OUT ALLLLL THE SERBS FROM THEIR LAND WHICH WAS NEVER EVER EVER EVER ALBANIAN!
Demographic history of Kosovo
[Categories: History of Kosovo]
Ottoman Rule
15th century
1455: Turkish (Click link for more info and facts about cadastral) cadastral (Charge against a citizen's person or property or activity for the support of government) tax (A period count of the population) census ( (Click link for more info and facts about defter) defter)9 of the Brankovic dynasty lands (covering 80% of present-day (Click link for more info and facts about Kosovo and Metohija) Kosovo and Metohija) recorded 480 villages, 13,693 adult males, 12,985 dwellings, 14,087 household heads (480 widows and 13,607 adult males). By ethnicity:
12,985 (A member of a Slavic people who settled in Serbia and neighboring areas in the 6th and 7th centuries) Serbian dwellings present in all 480 villages and towns
75 (Click link for more info and facts about Vlach) Vlach dwellings in 34 villages
46 (The Indo-European language spoken by the people of Albania) Albanian dwellings in 23 villages
17 (A native or inhabitant of Bulgaria) Bulgarian dwellings in 10 villages
5 (A native or inhabitant of Greece) Greek dwellings in Lauša, Vučitrn
1 (A person belonging to the worldwide group claiming descent from Jacob (or converted to it) and connected by cultural or religious ties) Jewish dwelling in Vučitrn
1 (A member of the Slavic people living in Croatia) Croat dwelling
17th-18th century
The Great Turkish War of 1683-1699 between the (Thick cushion used as a seat) Ottomans and the (A royal German family that provided rulers for several European states and wore the crown of the Holy Roman Empire from 1440 to 1806) Habsburgs led to the flight of a substantial part of (A Serbian province in southern Yugoslavia populated predominantly by Albanians) Kosovo's (A member of a Slavic people who settled in Serbia and neighboring areas in the 6th and 7th centuries) Serbian population to (A mountainous republic in central Europe; under the Habsburgs (1278-1918) Austria maintained control of the Holy Roman Empire and was a leader in European politics until the 19th century) Austrian held (Click link for more info and facts about Vojvodina) Vojvodina and the (Click link for more info and facts about Military Frontier) Military Frontier. Following this an influx of (A believer or follower of Islam) Muslim (The Indo-European language spoken by the people of Albania) Albanian19 from the highlands (Malesi) occurred, mostly into (Click link for more info and facts about Metohija) Metohija. The process continued in 18th century19.
19th century
(Click link for more info and facts about 19th century) 19th century data about the population of (A Serbian province in southern Yugoslavia populated predominantly by Albanians) Kosovo tend to be rather conflicting, giving sometimes numerical superiority to the (A member of a Slavic people who settled in Serbia and neighboring areas in the 6th and 7th centuries) Serbs and sometimes to the (The Indo-European language spoken by the people of Albania) Albanians. Many historians regard Ottoman statistics as being unreliable, as the empire counted its citizens by religion rather than nationality, using birth records rather than surveys of individuals.
A study in 1838 by an Austrian physician, dr. Joseph Müller found Metohija to be mostly Slavic (Serbian) in character. 10 Müller gives data for the three counties (Bezirke) of (Click link for more info and facts about Prizren) Prizren, (Click link for more info and facts about Pec) Pec and (Click link for more info and facts about Djakovica) Djakovica which roughly covered (Click link for more info and facts about Metohija) Metohija, the portion adjacent to Albania and most affected by Albanian settlers. Out of 195,000 inhabitants in Metohija, Müller found:
73,572 (Click link for more info and facts about Orthodox) Orthodox Serbs 38%
5,120 Catholic Albanians 3%
2,308 other non-Muslims (Vlachs etc.)
114,000 Muslims (58%), of which:
c. 38,000 are Serbs (19%)
c. 76,000 are Albanians (39%)
Müller's observations on towns:
Peć: 11.050 Serbs, 500 Albanians
Prizren: 16,800 Serbs, 6150 Albanians
Đakovica: majority of Albanians, surrounding villages Serbian
Map published by French ethnographer G. Lejean12 in 1861 shows that Albanians lived on around 57% of the territory of today's province while a similar map, published by British travellers G. M. Mackenzie and A. P. Irby12,13 in 1867 shows slightly less; these maps don't show which population was larger overall.
A study done in 1871 by (A mountainous republic in central Europe; under the Habsburgs (1278-1918) Austria maintained control of the Holy Roman Empire and was a leader in European politics until the 19th century) Austrian colonel Peter Kukulj for the internal use of the (Click link for more info and facts about Austro-Hungaria) Austro-Hungarian army showed that the mutesarifluk of (Click link for more info and facts about Prizren) Prizren (corresponding largely to present-day Kosovo and Metohija) had some 500,000 inhabitants, of which:
318.000 (A member of a Slavic people who settled in Serbia and neighboring areas in the 6th and 7th centuries) Serbs (64%),
161.000 (The Indo-European language spoken by the people of Albania) Albanians (32%),
10.000 (Capital and largest city of Italy; on the Tiber; seat of the Roman Catholic Church; formerly the capital of the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire) Roma (Gypsies) and Circassians,
2.000 (A native or inhabitant of Turkey) Turks
Miloš S. Milojević travelled the region in 1871-1877 and left accounts which testify that Serbs were majority population, and were predominant in all cities, while Albanians were minority and lived mostly in villages22. According to his data, Albanians were majority population in southern Drenica (Muslim Albanians), and in region around (Click link for more info and facts about Djakovica) Djakovica (Catholic Albanians), while the city was majorly Serbian. He also recorded several settlements of (A native or inhabitant of Turkey) Turks, (Capital and largest city of Italy; on the Tiber; seat of the Roman Catholic Church; formerly the capital of the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire) Roma and (A member of a Caucasian people living in the Caucasus but not speaking an Indo-European language) Circassians.
It is estimated that some 400,00018 Serbs were cleansed out of the Vilayet of Kosovo between 1876 and 1912, especially during the Greek-Turkish war of 1897.
Maps published by German historian (Click link for more info and facts about Kiepert) Kiepert12 in 1876, J. Hahn12 and Austrian consul K. Sax12, show that Albanians live on most of the territory of today's province, however they don't show which population is larger. According to these, the regions of (Click link for more info and facts about Kosovska Mitrovica) Kosovska Mitrovica and (Click link for more info and facts about Kosovo Polje) Kosovo Polje were settled mostly by Serbs, whereas most of the terrirory of western and eastern parts of today's province was settled by Muslim Albanians.
20th century
British journalist H. (Click link for more info and facts about Brailsford) Brailsford20 in his book Macedonia, Its Races and Their Future (1905) estimated that two-thirds of the population of Kosovo was Albanian and one-third Serbian. The most populous western districts of (Click link for more info and facts about Djakovica) Djakovica and (Click link for more info and facts about Pec) Pec were said to have between 20,000 and 25,000 Albanian households, as against some 5,000 Serbian ones. Map of Alfred Stead, published in 1909, shows that similar numbers of Serbs and Albanians were living in the territory.
German scholar Gustav Weigand gave the following statistical data about the population of (A Serbian province in southern Yugoslavia populated predominantly by Albanians) Kosovo in Ethnography of Macedonia (1924, written 1919), based on the pre-war situation in Kosovo in 1912:
(Click link for more info and facts about Pristina) Pristina District: 67% (The Indo-European language spoken by the people of Albania) Albanians, 30% (A member of a Slavic people who settled in Serbia and neighboring areas in the 6th and 7th centuries) Serbs
(Click link for more info and facts about Prizren) Prizren District: 63% (The Indo-European language spoken by the people of Albania) Albanians, 36% (A member of a Slavic people who settled in Serbia and neighboring areas in the 6th and 7th centuries) Serbs
(Click link for more info and facts about Vucitrn) Vucitrn District: 90% (The Indo-European language spoken by the people of Albania) Albanians, 10% (A member of a Slavic people who settled in Serbia and neighboring areas in the 6th and 7th centuries) Serbs
Ferizovic ( (Click link for more info and facts about Urosevac) Urosevac) District: 70% (The Indo-European language spoken by the people of Albania) Albanians, 30% (A member of a Slavic people who settled in Serbia and neighboring areas in the 6th and 7th centuries) Serbs
Gilani ( (Click link for more info and facts about Gnjilane) Gnjilane) District: 75% (The Indo-European language spoken by the people of Albania) Albanians, 23% (A member of a Slavic people who settled in Serbia and neighboring areas in the 6th and 7th centuries) Serbs
(Click link for more info and facts about Mitrovica) Mitrovica District: 40% (The Indo-European language spoken by the people of Albania) Albanians, 60% (A member of a Slavic people who settled in Serbia and neighboring areas in the 6th and 7th centuries) Serbs
Metohija with the town of (Click link for more info and facts about Djakovica) Djakovica is furthermore defined as almost exclusively (The Indo-European language spoken by the people of Albania) Albanian by Weigand.
Serbia and Yugoslavia
Balkan Wars and World War I-World War II
Retaking of Kosovo by (A historical region in central and northern Yugoslavia; Serbs settled the region in the 6th and 7th centuries) Serbia in 1912 resulting in suppression of the local Albanian population and ethnic cleansning of some regions15.
1921 439,010 total inhabitants6
A map of the Serbian census of 1921(*) shows that most of the terrirory was settled by Albanians, with Serbian enclaves around (Click link for more info and facts about Prizren) Prizren, Sredska Zupa and (Click link for more info and facts about Pristina) Pristina. Religion on the largest part of the territory was (The monotheistic religion of Muslims founded in Arabia in the 7th century and based on the teachings of Muhammad as laid down in the Koran) Islam with (Derived from the Byzantine Church and adhering to Byzantine rites) Eastern Orthodox enclaves around (Click link for more info and facts about Kosovska Mitrovica) Kosovska Mitrovica, (Click link for more info and facts about Pristina) Pristina and (Click link for more info and facts about Gnjilane) Gnjilane21.
1931 552,064 total inhabitants6
World War II-1968
Most of the teritorry of today's province is occupied by Italian-occupied (Click link for more info and facts about Greater Albania) Greater Albania, massacres of some 10,000 Serbs, (The mass expulsion and killing of one ethic or religious group in an area by another ethnic or religious group in that area) ethnic cleansing of about 100,0001 and settling of 70,000 of Albanians from (A republic in southeastern Europe on the Adriatic coast of the Balkan Peninsula) Albania.
1948: 727,820 total inhabitants5,6; 498,242 Albanians or 68.46%5
1953: 524,559 Albanians or 65%5
1961: 646,604 Albanians or 67.1%1,5
1968-1989: Autonomy
After the province gained autonomy, local provincial Statistical office given authority over census whereas the rest of the country's census was under the tutelage of the Federal Statistical Commission. Allegations of census rigging (for the 1971 and 1981) by (A native or inhabitant of Turkey) Turk, (A believer or follower of Islam) Muslim and (Capital and largest city of Italy; on the Tiber; seat of the Roman Catholic Church; formerly the capital of the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire) Roma minorities who claim forceful Albanization. Serb claims Albanians drastically overincreased their own numbers. Nothing could be substantiated though because the Kosovo Statistical offices were under exclusive Albanian control which was against the national norm at the time which dicated that census takers had to be of different nationalities (i.e. one Albanian and one Serb not both Albanian as was the case in the two following censa).
1971:
1,243,693 total inhabitants5,6
916,168 Albanians or 73.7%1,5
259,816 Serbs/Montengrins or 20.9%5; same below
26,000 Muslims or 2.1%
14,593 Roma or 1.2%
12,244 Turks or 1.0%
8,000 Croats or 0.7%
Albanians take ever-increasing control of Autonomous province with the introduction of the 1974 (Click link for more info and facts about Constitution of SFRY) Constitution of SFRY.
1981:
1,584,440 total inhabitants
1,226,736 Albanians 77.42%
236,525 Serbs/Montenegrins 14.93% 1,5,6
1989-1999: Centralized Yugoslav Control
Yugoslav Central Government reasserts control over Kosovo in 1989.
Official Yugoslav statistical results, almost all Albanians and some Roma, (A believer or follower of Islam) Muslims boyott the census following a call by (Click link for more info and facts about Ibrahim Rugova) Ibrahim Rugova to boycott (A historical region in central and northern Yugoslavia; Serbs settled the region in the 6th and 7th centuries) Serbian institutions.
1991
359,346 Total population
214,555 Orthodox Serbs (194,190 (A member of a Slavic people who settled in Serbia and neighboring areas in the 6th and 7th centuries) Serbians and 20,365 (Click link for more info and facts about Montenegrins) Montenegrins)
9,091 Albanians (most boycotted)
57,758 (Click link for more info and facts about (Slavic) Muslims) (Slavic) Muslims
44,307 Roma
10,445 Turks
8,062 Croats ( (Click link for more info and facts about Janjevci) Janjevci, Letnicani)
3,457 Yugoslavs
Official Yugoslav statistical corrections and projections, with the help of previous census results (1948-1981):
1,956,196 Total population6 (corrected from 359,346)
214,555 Orthodox Serbs (194,190 Serbians and 20,365 Montenegrins)
1,596,072 or 81,6 % Albanians (corrected from 9,091)
66,189 (Slavic) Muslims (corrected from 57,758)
45,745 Roma (corrected from 44,307)
10,445 Turks
8,062 Croats (Janjevci, Letnicani)
3,457 Yugoslavs
The corrections should not taken to be fully accurate. The number of Albanians is sometimes regarded as being an underestimate. On the other hand, it is sometimes regarded as an overestimate, being derived from earlier censa which are believed to be overestimates. The Statistical Office of Kosovo states that the quality of the 1991 census is "questionable." (*).
1999-present: UN administration
During the (Click link for more info and facts about Kosovo War) Kosovo War in 1999, over 700,000 ethnic Albanians 14 and around 100,000 ethnic Serbs 16 were forced out of the province to neighbouring Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Serbia. After the (An organization of independent states formed in 1945 to promote international peace and security) United Nations took over administration of Kosovo following the war, the vast majority of the Albanian refugees returned.
Many non-Albanians - chiefly Serbs and Roma - fled or were expelled, mostly to the rest of Serbia at the end of the war, with further refugee outflows occurring as the result of sporadic ethnic violence. The number of registered refugees is around 250,0007,11,17. The non-Albanian population in Kosovo is now about half of its pre-war total. The largest concentration of Serbs in the province is in the north, but many remain in (Click link for more info and facts about Kosovo Serb enclaves) Kosovo Serb enclaves surrounded by Albanian-populated areas.
Various, mostly Serbian, sources claim that a large number of Albanians (usually stated as being around 200,000) have moved into Kosovo since 1999, due to the complete liberalization of the Kosovo-Albania border. The veracity of this claim is unclear; the Statistical Office of Kosovo states that "there are at present no reliable statistics on migration in Kosovo."
2000 Living Standard Measurement Survey (Statistical Office of Kosovo). Total population estimated at 1 900 000 est. 4
88% Albanians (1,733,600)
7% Serbs (137,900)
3% Muslim Slavs (59,100)
2% Roma (39,400)
1% Turks (19,700)
The United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) estimates the population at 2.0 to 2.2 million people, extrapolating from voter registration data recorded by the UNMIK Department of Local Administration in 2000. (*)
Some estimates by Albanian demographers estimate a population of 2.4 million Albanians living in Kosovo today. This is regarded by most independent observers as an overestimate as it would imply a total population of some 2.5-2.6 million people in Kosovo, much higher than other estimates.
References
1 Annexe I, by the Serbian Information Centre-London to a report of the Select Committee on Foreign Affairs of the (The lower house of the British parliament) House of Commons of the (Click link for more info and facts about Parliament of the United Kingdom) Parliament of the United Kingdom.
2 The International Criminal Tribunal For The Former Yugoslavia
3 (A Serbian province in southern Yugoslavia populated predominantly by Albanians) Kosovo
4 Living Standard Measurement Survey 2000, Statistical Office of Kosovo - see also Kosovo and its Population
5 Official Yugoslav censa results 1948-1981
6 Center for Contemporary Journalism
7 Coordination Centre of Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and Republic of Serbia for Kosovo and Metohija
8 Das Fürstenthum Serbien und Türkisch-Serbien, eine militärisch-geographische Skizze von Peter Kukolj, Major im k.k.Generalstabe, (Click link for more info and facts about Wien) Wien 1871
9 The original Turkish-language copy of the census is stored in (The largest city and former capital of Turkey; rebuilt on the site of ancient Byzantium by Constantine I in the fourth century; renamed Constantinople by Constantine who made it the capital of the Byzantine Empire; now the seat of the Eastern Orthodox Chu) Istanbul's archives. However, in 1972 the (Capital and largest city of Bosnia; scene of the assassination of Francis Ferdinand in 1914 which precipitated World War I) Sarajevo Institute of Middle Eastern Studies translated the census and published an analysis of it Kovačević Mr. Ešref, Handžić A., Hadžibegović H. Oblast Brankovića - Opširni katastarski popis iz 1455., Orijentalni institut, Sarajevo 1972. Subsequently others have covered the subject as well suh as Vukanović Tatomir, Srbi na Kosovu, Vranje, 1986.
10 Dr. Joseph Müller, Albanien, Rumelien und die Österreichisch-montenegrinische Gränze, (The capital and largest city of the Czech Republic in the western part of the countryi; a cultural and commercial center since the 14th century) Prag, 1844
11 (Click link for more info and facts about UNHCR) UNHCR: 2002 Annual Statistical Report: Serbia and Montenegro, pg. 9
12Wilkinson, H.R. (1951). Maps and Politics; a review of the ethnographic cartography of Macedonia, Liverpool University Press.
14BBC: (*)
15 Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. (1914). Report of the International Commission To Inquire into the Causes and Conduct of the Balkan Wars. Washington: The Carnegie Endowment.
16 (Click link for more info and facts about OSCE) OSCE: 'Kosovo/Kosova As Seen As Told'
17USCR: Country report: Yugoslavia
18ISBN 86-17-09287-4: Коста Николић, Никола Жутић, Момчило Павловић, Зорица Шпадијер: Историја за трећи разред гимназије природно-математичког смера и четврти разред гимназије општег и друштвено-језичког смера, Belgrade, 2002, pg. 63
19Gustav Weigand, Ethnographie von Makedonien, Leipzig, 1924; Густав Вайганд, Етнография на Македония (Bulgarian translation)
20H. N. Brailsford, Macedonia, Its Races and Their Future, London, 1906
21Zec, Stevan, "Maps of our dividings political atlas of Yugoslav countries in XX century", Beograd : Beogradsko mašinsko-grafičko preduzeće, 1991.
22ISBN 86-80029-29-7: Mirčeta Vemić: Ethnic Map of a Part of Ancient Serbia: According to the travel-record of Miloš S. Milojević 1871-1877, Belgrade, 2005
Those are all good reasons why albanians in Kosova should gain independence, but let's just take reason number 4,(4. Kosovars can't trust living under the same roof with Serbia anymore. Serbia has murdered, burned their houses and expelled Albanians every time it had a chance.)and put it against serbian side of arguments, which basically can be reduced to: "Kosova is the cradle of Serbian culture"
I think the killing of babies and pregnant women has to be the winning argument in the debate.
dude i cant wait for kosovo to become independent, yes it is the cradle of serb civilisation, the serb churches are the only things in kosovo that are worth anything, yet i would give all of them up for not (thank god) having to see albanians travel around serbia in their smelly outfits wearing black shoes with white socks anymore. i mean i cant explain to you what joy serbs feel when they fly to belgrade now and not have to share the same plane with hordes of albanian familes 12 or 13 of them at once, the women with their white headscarves and long skirts yelling at the kids, the kids dressed as snoop doggy dog wearing shirts they bought in their local 99cents store and the fathers wearing fake gold while grandpa sleeps with his shoes off (stinkin up the entire plane) and his little white egg shaped hat falling over his face. goodbye already please. serbia will finally win the battle with cancer and then u will be able to shot and kill each other over heroin and whores that u trade.
To my "beloved" serb friend:
I believe that now you my dear serbo have a better picture (especially because of the fact that the news come from Belgrade), of what serbos have done in Kosova.
Your government has on choice but to admmit the crimes they commited.
Not that the international community doesn't know but still it is good when the criminals admmit the crimes themselves.
Thank good it was their last time. No more chances for you serbos to do whatever you please to the Albanians in Kosova.
So from now on, shut your mouth, if you have nothing else to say. You might gain a little respect in here.
the only thing u have done is stolen something that was never yours enjoy it cause noone will ever fund it again.
now only if the albanians were to be civilized like this and show where they buried and killed thousands of serbs.
Here is what the Serbian army fought with the full support of the Serbian people.
"The 48 victims of the Suva Reka massacre -- among them 14 children, two babies, a pregnant woman and a 100-year-old woman -- were among hundreds of ethnic Albanians killed during the war in Kosovo whose bodies were later transported to Serbia.
They were dumped in mass graves near a high security police facility at Batajnica outside Belgrade, the Serbian capital. Autopsies showed the victims were executed."
As for the dude mentioning the Serb victims we keep hearing this crap over and over. If they existed Carla Del Ponte and the Russians and many other Albanophobes in Europe would have found them. Serbs fabricating stories dos not make the crimes they committed less criminal; it reinforces the fact that the Serbs are the only people in this planet who are capable of killing pregnant women, 100 years old men and children, and fabricate stories about how some imaginary Serb has dissapeared.
what is this asshole???? u fucking scum lyieing siptarski scum, why cant u be civilized liek teh serbs and admit to the crimes u commited
THE SUNDAY TIMES (UK), Sunday, September 3, 2000 EUROPE
KLA faces trials for war crimes on Serbs
Inquiry turns on Albanians
Tom Walker, Diplomatic Correspondent
INTERNATIONAL war crimes investigators are for the first time focusing on atrocities against Serbian civilians that were committed by the Kosovo Liberation Army (KLA).
Sources close to prosecutors in the Hague confirmed last week that its forensic experts were checking five sites where war crimes were allegedly carried out by members of the KLA. Their findings could lead to a request to Nato's Kfor troops to arrest several senior figures in the new Kosovo Albanian elite, including possibly Hashim Thaci, the KLA's former political leader, or Ramush Haridinaj, one of his main political rivals.
United Nations sources have already revealed that Agim Ceku, the guerrillas' former commander, may be the subject of a secret "sealed" indictment for his activities while fighting for the Croatian army against the Serbs. Like Thaci and Haridinaj, Ceku, who now heads the Kosovo Protection Corps, the local defence force, has denied wrong-doing.
The investigation could radically alter the international perception of the conflict, in which Albanians were seen as the largely innocent victims of Serbian aggression. After a year of growing concern about hundreds of revenge killings of Serbs by Albanians in the province, there are signs that the public relations pendulum may begin to swing the Serbs' way.
The investigations by the International War Crimes Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia are among its most secretive, with officials fearing retaliation by the Albanians. "The operations of the KLA clearly involved many activities we should scrutinise," said one Hague official.
"There's a real problem in unravelling their cell structure, but we may well end up pointing the finger at senior figures. The difficulty then will be persuading any Nato nation to arrest them."
All five sites were discovered by the Serbian police as they regained territory lost to the KLA in the summer of 1998. As Albanian villages were being destroyed in the Serbian police offensives that grabbed the international media spotlight, the plight of the rural Serbian peasantry was often ignored and dozens of villagers and farmers were abducted, tortured and left in mass graves.
Three of the areas under investigation are thought to be the villages of Klecka and Glodjane and the town of Orahovac.
The killings in Klecka have been linked to Thaci, who now heads the Democratic party of Kosovo. The Belgrade media made great play of the discovery in August 1998 of what it claimed were 22 Serbian bodies in a lime kiln in Klecka.
Glodjane, further west in the Decane area bordering Albania, was fiercely contested by the Serbs and Albanians. In September 1998 the Serbian media centre in Pristina claimed that the bodies of 34 people had been found in a canal there. They were a mixture of Serbian farmers, some gypsies and Albanians suspected of being collaborators. The local commander at the time was Haradinaj, now head of the Alliance for the Future of Kosovo.
In Orahovac, an ancient Balkan maze of cobbled streets and mixed ethnicities, at least 50 Serbs were abducted by the KLA in July 1998, never to be seen again. In the autumn hundreds of angry Serbs marched six miles through the hills to Dragobilj, the local KLA headquarters and one of the few places where Islamic mujaheddin fighters were seen. The protest failed to persuade the KLA to give any details of the missing Serbs.
Most inquiries made so far have been met with silence and few witnesses are thought likely to be brave enough to reveal the brutality of the KLA.
One former Albanian commander, who now lives in the West, told The Sunday Times that he saw two Serbian policemen tied to the backs of Jeeps and dragged to their deaths during the fighting around Glodjane. He said he had no intention of talking to the war crimes prosecutors and wished to forget Kosovo altogether.
The Serbs, too, are unlikely to co-operate with the Hague because Belgrade refuses to recognise the tribunal. Milosevic and Milan Milutinovic, the Serbian president, are both indicted by the tribunal, and Milosevic is believed to have offered a bolthole to Radovan Karadzic, the most wanted suspect of the Bosnian conflict.
"We're not permitted to make any interviews in Serbia proper and that is a considerable hindrance," said Paul Risley, spokesman for Carla Del Ponte, the tribunal's senior prosecutor.
It is also not clear whether investigations into the KLA's activities can be extended into the period after Nato entered Kosovo in June 1999. Authorities in Belgrade claim there have been 1,041 murders in the province since then - with 910 of the victims being Serbs or Montenegrins. In the most recent attacks on Serbs, an eight-year-old child was killed by a hit-and-run driver near the town of Lipljan last month, and a hand grenade was lobbed into a basketball court injuring 10 children north of Pristina. A farmer aged 80 was machine-gunned to death in the nearby village of Crkvna Vodica while he was tending his cattle.
The claims of genocide being made by the Albanians at Belgrade two years ago are now being thrown back at them, but the war crimes tribunal remains dispassionate. "We're not seeing genocide at the moment, but severe human rights violations. There is no evidence that any group wants to annihilate the Serbs rather than just force them out," said an official.
carla del ponte is the biggest serb hater out there that is a fact
Human Casualties in the War and Immediate Post war Period in Kosovo
Each human casualty is tragic but comparing the figures might help us see better what was Kosovo war fought for and what was its true impact.
2,108 Bodies found in 1999 season of forensic investigation
420 Albanians killed since Kfor/KLA occupation began (Kfor number June 99 through March 00; 400 murdered)
1041 Non-Albanians killed since Kfor/KLA occupation began (number cited in http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/09/03/stifgneur02004.html)*
680 Bodies found in 2000 season of forensic investigation
4,249 Total Victims
2.67% less percentage applied those who died natural deaths ( from Spanish )
4,135 Sub-Total Died as result of War
2.67% less percentage applied those who were Yugoslav soldiers 111 Yugslav Soldiers (est)
4,025 Sub-Total excluding Yugoslav soldiers
875 less estimated KLA KIA'd ( high figure is 1,500 low figure is 250)
3,150 Sub-Total Non-Combatants
2,467 Killed by NATO/KLA (breakdown below)
22 Klecka KLA possibly under Agim Ceku (cited as part of 2000 investigation in http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/09/03/stifgneur02004.html)*
34 Glodjane KLA possibly under Ramush (cited as part of 2000 investigation in http://www.sunday- times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/09/03/stifgneur02004.html)*
50 Orahovac (cited as part of 2000 investigation in http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/09/03/stifgneur02004.html)*
68 Markovac KLA under Commander Remi ( cited as part of Remi's forced expulsion of 160,000 civilians on BBC program and in J. Steele Guardian article July 1999)
97 Istok ( Died as a result of 3 days of NATO bombing, Spanish Interview )
39 Kacanik (Albanian loyalists killed by 162nd UCK brigade in mid March; before bombing)
45 Kotlina (Albanian loyalists killed by 162nd UCK brigade before bombing)
70 Velika Kusa ( out of 74 found )
30 Djakovica ( loyalist town, heavily bombed by NATO under KLA direction)
10 Ljubenic ( mixed Albanian-Roma loyalist village)
30 Pec ( out of 65 found, 15 before bombing, mostly wealthly anti-UCK killed, possibly under Ramush'es or Drini's orders)
7 Kosovo Polje ( mixed population loyalist town)
20 Pec bus (Albanians killed by NATO bombs at crossroad)
75 Bedded down for the night
84 Korisa Convoy
5 Pristina (T. Watson witnessed a number of Albanians killed by bombs)
140 Dragoban Cemetary (Non-Albanian)
166 Dragoban Cemetary (Albanians)
4 Rugova (4 hijacked by UCK, 20 additional UCK fighters KIA'd when KLA dropped grenade in hijacked van)
4 Decani (4 members of loyalist militia)
5 Gologovac (killed by UCK in Jan/Feb)
1 Suad Qorraj(allegedly by Ramush in June 1999) Sunday Observer, Sept 10, 2000, by Nick Wood "US 'covered up' for Kosovo Ally" )
420 Albanians killed since Kfor/KLA occupation began (Kfor number June 99 through March 00; 400 murdered)
1041 Non-Albanians killed since Kfor/KLA occupation began (number cited in http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/09/03/stifgneur02004.html)*
683 Sub-Total Potential victims of Yugoslav or NATO/KLA forces
78% Percent of Non-Combatants killed by NATO/KLA action
22% Percent of Non-Combatants killed either by NATO/KLA or by Yugoslav forces
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ohh poor little serbs have nothing to turn to...
crimes go punished, crime does not pay, did serbia never hear that?
racism will not get you anywhere
Serbs have enough wesites that say bullshit about albanians. However, the whole world has seen through your lies and fabrications and know for sure that you are nothing but savages who murder women and childred are inclined to rape far more than any other nation.
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