Thursday, October 27, 2005

Kosovo, Still Messy After All These Years - The New York Times

Six years and four months after it made Kosovo a ward, the United Nations Security Council has ordered that talks begin on the future status of that blood-soaked Balkan province. This is to give the impression that the outcome is not decided. It is, and it's independence. The six nations that oversee Kosovo - the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Italy and Russia - have ruled out returning it to Serbia, linking it to Albania or partitioning it. So the task of Martti Ahtisaari, the former Finnish president who will lead the talks, is to carve yet another independent state out of the former Yugoslavia.

We have argued that Kosovo is neither prepared for nor deserving of independence. Its Albanian majority has shown no tolerance toward the Serbian minority and little capacity for self-government. Kosovo has no army, only a fledgling police force and powerful mafias. The only Albanian leader with any semblance of authority, Ibrahim Rugova, has lung cancer. His most likely successor, Ramush Haradinaj, was indicted by the international tribunal in The Hague and surrendered.

The Serbs will not voluntarily cede this territory, and Albanian rioting in March 2004, which destroyed 30 of the many ancient Serb churches in Kosovo, does not give the Serbs great confidence in an independent Kosovo. The Albanians have no faith that the Serbs would not revert to ethnic cleansing if they had the chance. These two groups are never going to agree.

So why is the United Nations moving ahead? The current arrangement requires Kosovo to demonstrate responsible self-rule before talks even begin on its ultimate status. That has proved an artificial and unworkable goal. The U.N. viceroy in Kosovo, Soren Jessen-Petersen, says it has created uncertainty on all sides and kept foreign investors out.

So the time has come to recognize the inevitable outcome, independence for Kosovo. But the Security Council can still insist on the attainment of democratic standards before granting it. That could force the Serbs to come to grips with having lost Kosovo in 1999. The Albanian Kosovars are more likely to demonstrate leadership if they are told that they are working toward independence, not merely toward talking about working toward independence.

The Security Council would be foolish to use the Ahtisaari mission to extract itself from a bad situation as soon as possible. Even with the best of intentions, an independent Kosovo will require international forces and strong oversight for a long time. In the Balkans, the default mode is violence.

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Anonymous said...

dude i cant wait for kosovo to become independent, yes it is the cradle of serb civilisation, the serb churches are the only things in kosovo that are worth anything, yet i would give all of them up for not (thank god) having to see albanians travel around serbia in their smelly outfits wearing black shoes with white socks anymore. i mean i cant explain to you what joy serbs feel when they fly to belgrade now and not have to share the same plane with hordes of albanian familes 12 or 13 of them at once, the women with their white headscarves and long skirts yelling at the kids, the kids dressed as snoop doggy dog wearing shirts they bought in their local 99cents store and the fathers wearing fake gold while grandpa sleeps with his shoes off (stinkin up the entire plane) and his little white egg shaped hat falling over his face. goodbye already please. serbia will finally win the battle with cancer and then u will be able to shot and kill each other over heroin and whores that u trade.

Anonymous said...

Your offensive comments tell exactly how you feel about yourself. Get a life you sorry looser.

Anonymous said...

You dude(or watevar you are) have a serious personality issue....don't forget uncivilized monsters like you Serbs have only one place to go.....Hell...I am making ready my champagne for the Great day of independence my dear neighbour ...

Anonymous said...

hahahah tell me one thing that is not true about that? adios!

Anonymous said...

In Albanian there is a saying "Mos e vet se t'kallxon vet". Translated into English it means "Don't ask him, as he will let you know who he is"

This is a true example. This is the way they talked about Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosova. This kind of brainwashed thinking led them to war, and thinking that Kosova is their cradle. This is why all other nations constituting Yougoslavia wanted out of there, and this is why even Montenegro wants out of there.

Someone expects us to live in peace together with someone that thinks this way? Unfortenately I have met very few Serbs that don't think this way about everyone else.

I my self choose to keep my level, and allow anyone to operate in its own level.

Cheers and long live independent prosperous free KOSOVA and its citizens.

Anonymous said...

"thinking" kosovo is the serb craddle? hahahahahah what an idiot! look at all of the glorious serbina writers (world known) who wrote about Kosovo for hundreds of years and the epic poetry written from kosovo, look at the glory of teh SERB ORTHODOX CHURHCES YOU ARE BLOWING UP SAVAGES!!!! Tesla dreamt about the glory of 1389 (when there was 0 albos in kosovo) he knew all the poems by heart, every single serb organization around the world for hundreds of years was named after something that delt with kosovo and now the serbs "claim" that is their craddle! hahahahah WHAT A MORON! Typical Albo lies you always steal what is not urs, your identity first (ask yourself how come EVERY SINGLE SOURCE take even the most pro albo source out there says that the "origins of the albos is still unclear, that "probably" this or "maybe" that" how come???? because your origins mean shit cause u contributed SHIT to humanity, noone wrote down anything about you!) thats why u claim Alexander the Great, Plato the Serb churches, Illirians etc etc etc. fact is the word ALBANIAN wsa used first time in the 12th century! FACT! no this tribes name begins with the letter A so they are the desendents of Jesus or the Illirians or Martians! HAHAHAHAH PATHETIC!

Anonymous said...


Associated Press Writer

October 26, 2005, 8:58 AM EDT

SKORENOVAC, Serbia-Montenegro -- Col. Zoltan Dani was behind one of the most spectacular losses ever suffered by the U.S. Air Force: the 1999 shooting down of an F-117A stealth fighter.

Now, for the first time since that night six years ago, the former Serbian commander of an anti-aircraft missile battery has consented to speak publicly to Western media about the circumstances surrounding the unprecedented downing of a U.S. stealth plane

The hit on the radar-evading plane on March 27, 1999, during the 78-day NATO campaign over Serbia, triggered doubts not only about the F-117s, but also about the entire concept of stealth technology on which the U.S. Air Force has based its newest generation of warplanes.

Military analysts debated how the planes would fare in a war against a militarily sophisticated opponent if an obsolescent air defense such as Serbia's could manage to track and destroy them.

In an interview this week with The Associated Press, Dani said the F-117 was detected and shot down during a moonless night -- just three days into the war -- by a Soviet-made SA-3 Goa surface-to-air missile.

"We used a little innovation to update our 1960s-vintage SAMs to detect the Nighthawk," Dani said. He declined to discuss specifics, saying the exact nature of the modification to the warhead's guidance system remains a military secret.

It involved "electromagnetic waves," was all that Dani -- who now owns a small bakery in this sleepy village just north of Belgrade -- would divulge.

The F-117 was developed in great secrecy in the 1970s. It entered service in 1983 but was not revealed officially until 1988. It saw its first combat in the 1989 invasion of Panama and was a star of the 1991 Gulf War.

"Long before the 1999 war, I took keen interest in the stealth fighter and on how it could be detected," said Dani, who has been hailed in Serbia as a war hero. "And I concluded that there are no invisible aircraft, but only less visible."

The F-117 was one of only two allied aircraft shot down in the war. The other was an F-16 fighter, which the U.S. Air Force said was also hit by an SA-3. Both pilots bailed out and were rescued by NATO helicopters.

Dani said his anti-aircraft missile regiment, tasked with the anti-aircraft defense of the Serbian capital, Belgrade, downed the F-16.

Several other NATO warplanes were damaged by missile hits but managed to struggle back to bases in neighboring Bosnia, Macedonia or Croatia. At least one is said to have ditched into the Adriatic Sea as it attempted to regain its base in Italy.

Despite NATO's near-total air supremacy, the alliance never succeeded in knocking out Dani's batteries.

The Serb SAMs remained a potent threat throughout the conflict, forcing attacking warplanes to altitudes above 15,000 feet, where they were safe from surface-to-air missiles but far less effective in a ground attack role.

NATO won the war in June 1999, after President Slobodan Milosevic decided to withdraw his largely intact army from Kosovo, following the destruction of numerous government buildings, bridges and other infrastructure targets throughout Serbia.

"The Americans entered the war a bit overconfident," Dani said. "They thought they could crush us without real resistance."

"At times, they acted like amateurs," Dani said, listing some ways the Serbs managed to breach NATO communications security, including eavesdropping on pilots' conversations with AWACS surveillance planes.

"I personally listened to their pilots' conversations, learning about their routes and bombing plans," Dani said.

Dani said that his unit has had annual reunions on every March 27 since 1999 when a cake in the shape of the F-117 is served.,0,849057.story?coll=sns-ap-world-headlines

Anonymous said...

3 months ago the serbian minister of education said that 50% of the serbian population have only 8 years of school education.And after reading the serbians'post in here i truly believe what he stated.There is albanian epic poetry written for kosova too, you DICKHEAD, and written by albanian (world known) writers too.You brought back the concentration camps,the massive graves,the mass raping of women and you accuse albanians of being savage.YOU SERBS AS A NATION ARE THE SCUM OF THE EARTH.You are not going to find shit written about albanians cause all the shit is written about serbs.While you shity people gave the humanity wars and death we gave to the world mother Teresa,the worlds greatest humanitarian.You are pathetic you dickhead, if it was for serbs Jesus christ was serb and the real name is Jesus Christovic.If it is albanians that steal from the others how come you lost slovenia,croatia,macedonia,bosnia,
KOSOVA,and next year Montenegro,once upon the time you claimed all this as yours.

Anonymous said...

they lost in 1999...the independence is to near for Kosovo..the serbs is not going to be occupator again for Kosovo, we are democratic state.

Anonymous said...

dont forget albanians gave also the great pill called VIAGRA Lmao..great story on how the doctor discovered it...serbs are pathetic, im not even going to try to convince u that u are so intelligent that u make my mouse seem dumb..ti je tull e larë haha..SCUM go back to wherever u came from, that russia or hell??

Anonymous said...

Albanians invented Viagra??? hhahhhahaha the dude who invented it was HALF albo decent who was raised as an american CHRISTIAN who had nothing to do with albanian whatsoever! it was his normal half that invented viagra not teh albo side trust me. mother teresa was a fraud that did nothing must i post all the contributions that the serbs have made to the world? no, here is just 3 names that have contrubuted more to the world than the entire albanian nation combined: TESLA (who was the father of the modern world) PUPIN (becaue of him we have long distance calls, fax machines etc, a hall at COlumbia Univ. was named after him) MILEVA MARIC einsteins wife, co-founder of the theory of relativity (einstein wven after their divorce gave her the money from the nobel prize for her being the co-inventor of e=mc2)

Anonymous said...

I guess an albanian invented Viagra in order help the elderly albanian men keep fathering more children with their sons wives while the sons are running the family business (Ex: selling heroin, human trafficing, prostiution.)

Kosovar2006 said...

Ho bitch First of all. The guy that dicovered Viagra didnt say ' i want to have a longer hard on and even when im older' How d'tha fuck do you get that VIagra more kids. you illitarate serbian mofo. The intention was to prevent heart attacks then discovered the ingridents that causes hardon hence VIAGRA was invented. SCientist was Ferid Murad FROM a muslim background mother was from illanois though
If serbian actually allowed for our education we would have had a noble price every field. Seriously neighbour respect me i will respect you if not bring it on and see who will win