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In Serbia, the people were rocked by brutal civil war. The only solution seems to be for Serbia to recognize Kosovo's independence; For Kosovo to recognize the North's independence. It is the only way to keep the peace. However, Serbs will never give up Kosovo (the government is making strides) and Thaci and Albanians will never partition it. Fine, go to war again, kill each other like maniacs then, and then get nowhere. There needs to be concessions on both sides though. I am happy with Dacic and Serbia's progress; These comments by Thaci are ridiculous and troublesome...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1125183008619937732005-08-27T18:50:00.000-04:002005-08-27T18:50:00.000-04:00Miodrag Stojkovic University of Newcastle | Britai...Miodrag Stojkovic <BR/>University of Newcastle | Britain<BR/>Miodrag Stojkovic's biggest fear is that "people think we're crazy scientists creating the latest Frankenstein." That's because the 40-year-old Serb, a researcher with the Institute of Human Genetics at the University of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, could become the first person to use cells from a cloned human embryo to treat disease—if a British regulator approves the experiment later this year. Stojkovic, who helped clone mammals at the University of Munich before coming to the U.K., fled the former Yugoslavia in 1991 just before the Balkan wars broke out. "I recognized something bad was going to happen," he says. The cloning wars can seem almost as fierce. Using a technique similar to that recently demonstrated in South Korea, Stojkovic plans to create embryos by injecting a patient's own DNA into an egg from which the genetic material has been removed. He then hopes to harvest stem cells—which can develop into almost any organ—and coax them to produce insulin in diabetics. Stem cells also hold promise for victims of Alzheimer's, Parkinson's and heart disease. <BR/><BR/>Trouble is, Stojkovic will discard the embryos just days after making them, and for many people that's morally unacceptable. Many religions maintain that life begins at conception and that throwing away embryos amounts to murder; "I have a clear conscience," says Stojkovic, who holds that life begins after 14 days, when the nervous system starts to form. Nonreligious groups like the London-based Human Genetics Alert warn that the techniques could be used to clone babies, something that Stojkovic opposes. "I believe in embryonic stem cells," he says. If he can come up with a cure for diabetes, a lot more people will believe along with him.—By Mark HalperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1125069274868822102005-08-26T11:14:00.000-04:002005-08-26T11:14:00.000-04:00"its not in the britannica in front of u"? hahah ..."its not in the britannica in front of u"? hahah right sure, why dont u pat teh the online version says? albos and intellects really go well togehter hahaha im sure u sit next he dictionary all day long. please show me the "LIES" that they spew out about the serbs fighting the nazis, or about 1389 or about Tesla and al teh other great Serbian accoplishments, show me how they lie about that as well cause the Albanina way of thinking and logic ar ethe "REAL" truths in this world right? like again Alexander the Great was an Albo so was Aristotle right? HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAH read and weep:<BR/>Belgrade engineering students win international competition Students of the Faculty of Electric and Technical Engineering from Belgrade first in Chicago<BR/><BR/>Team of ten students of the Faculty of Electric and Technical Engineering of the University in Belgrade, won the first prize and 10,000 Dollars at the biggest world competition of young electric engineers held in Chicago from August 15 to 17.<BR/><BR/>With a help of electronics they added to an engine that is being installed in household gadgets for the purpose of saving of electricity, they were proclaimed the best young electronic engineers in the final ahead of the two USA teams.<BR/><BR/>Apart from the main prize they also got two secondary prizes, for presentation and technical documentation. These prizes are especially valuable for them because they have to make presentation and speak about the technical documentation in English, the mother tongue of their chief competitors.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>The 2005 International<BR/>Future Energy ChallengeTM<BR/>Sponsored by<BR/>the IEEE Power Electronics Society,<BR/>the IEEE Industry Applications Society,<BR/>the IEEE Industrial Electronics Society,<BR/>the IEEE Power Engineering Society,<BR/>the National Renewable Energy Laboratory,<BR/>the European Power Electronics Association, and others.<BR/><BR/><BR/>August 17, 2005 – 2005 Awards Announced<BR/>We concluded the 2005 final competition. Congratulations to the following winners.<BR/>Topic A:<BR/><BR/> · First Place (for $10,000) - University of Belgrade, Serbia<BR/> · Outstanding Design Innovation (for $6,500) - University of South Carolina, USA<BR/> · Outstanding Educational Impact (for $2,000) - University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, USA<BR/> · Outstanding Presentation (for $2,000) - University of Belgrade, Serbia<BR/> · Outstanding Technical Report (for $2,000) - University of Belgrade, SerbiaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1125042229755775562005-08-26T03:43:00.000-04:002005-08-26T03:43:00.000-04:00Martyr,Britanica has that huh? Not in the book sit...Martyr,<BR/><BR/>Britanica has that huh? Not in the book sitting infront of me ;)<BR/><BR/>Please go ahead, the rest of the thread is open to your BS...have fun.<BR/><BR/>Peace to you Martyr,<BR/>an Albanian from KosovaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124999967124353892005-08-25T15:59:00.000-04:002005-08-25T15:59:00.000-04:00DUDE U SOUND LIKE A LITTLE BITCH WHO JUST GOT AWAY...DUDE U SOUND LIKE A LITTLE BITCH WHO JUST GOT AWAY WITH STEALING SOME COOKIES FROM THE JAR. HARM UR PEOPLE???? R U KIDDING ME??????? SERBS HAVE OPPRESSED U FOR CENTURIES??? SO LET ME ASK U IF SERBS HAVE BEEN "HARMING" U FOR CENTURIES ARE YOU THEN FINALLY ADMITING THAT KOSOVO WAS ALWAYS UNDER SERBIAN CONTROL??? DUDE WIKIPEDIA IS THE #1 DICTIONARY ONLINE, MOST RELIABLE AND ACCURATE ACCORIND TO EVER SCHOLAR WHO USED IT, NOW THE FACT THAT THIS DICTIONARY IS NO GOOD CAUE IT DOES NOT SUPPORT ALBANIAN LIES IS UR ISSUE, LOOK AT ALL THE FOOTNOTE LOKK AT ALL TEH REFERENCES LOOK AT ANY DICTIONARY THAT WAS WRITTEN PRIOR TO 1992!!!!!!!! LOOK AT BRITTANICA EVEN TODAY, THE NUMBERS OF SERBS LIVING THERE IN KOSOVO FROM THE 11TH TO 20TH CEN. IS TOTOALLY ACCURATE (AND EVEN WHAT I POSTED DOENST SUPPORT THE "SERBIAN NATIONALIST" VIEW CAUE THAT IS BIASED AS WELL) THIS IS A VERY ACCURATE ACCOUNT OF THE KOSOVO DEMOGRAPHICS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124992636545619112005-08-25T13:57:00.000-04:002005-08-25T13:57:00.000-04:00"Demographic history of KosovoFrom Wikipedia, the ...<I>"Demographic history of Kosovo<BR/>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.<BR/>Contents"</I><BR/><BR/>Although I am pro-open source, Wiki when it comes to issues such as history is quite unreliable. <BR/><BR/>Did you write all this Mr. Martyr? <BR/><BR/>How come we don't see this information among proper academic encyclopedias such as Britanica?<BR/><BR/><I>"Following this an influx of Muslim Albanian[2] from the highlands (Malesi) occurred,"</I><BR/><BR/>The first flaw in your "proof". Albanians from the highlands are Catholic. This is where Catholicism was preserved and Ottomans never were able to tax/surpress them.<BR/><BR/><I>"Many historians regard Ottoman statistics as being unreliable, as the empire counted its citizens by religion rather than nationality, using birth records rather than surveys of individuals."</I><BR/><BR/>Given that most of eastern Albanian lands were Orthodox (and some still are) this would imply that the Albanians (who were hit hard by the Ottomans, just like the Greeks) would have been counted as Serbian. Do note that the Ottomans refused to acknowledge us as a nation, this of course going in favor to the Serbs.<BR/><BR/><I>"Various, mostly Serbian, sources claim that a large number of Albanians (usually stated as being around 200,000) have moved into Kosovo since 1999, due to the complete liberalization of the Kosovo-Albania border"</I><BR/><BR/>Serbian sources. What can I say, Serbs have always claimed this and here whoever wrote this decided to be a bit "politicaly correct". Well the truth is all my life in Kosova after 1999 I have not yet met any Albanians from Albania besides those working for the UN mission as translators for the court. These Albanians work as international staff, get paid international wages.<BR/><BR/><I>"incorporated into the Italian army from the former royal Albanian army, with the slogans of building a "Greater Albania"</I><BR/><BR/>Never in my life have I heard of this. The concept "greater" has been continously applied to Serbia. I.e. Greater Serbia. The good thing is we have proof that Greater Serbia was attempted. The wars in the 90s, the attempted genocide upon the Bosniac, Croat and Albanian nations. Serbs showed very clearly they want Greater Serbia.<BR/><BR/>Albanians had a dream 100 years ago. The dream was for Albania to survive with all its people inside the same borders. We failed. That is not an unjust dream as it makes sense for nations to built states based on ethinc/cultural/historic borders (when it does). Back then it did, it made sense. Today, it doesn't. An Albania as it was 100 years ago, will never exist.<BR/><BR/><I>"WHAT WILL U DO WHEN NATO LEAVES???????? "</I><BR/><BR/>We will live happilly ever after knowing that our country is a sane and healthy place and we will hope that your country too will become sane and that people like you will understand once and for all that hate has no place in this world. <BR/><BR/>You see Martyr, when NATO leaves, Kosova will be strong and when strong Serb nationalist/fascists will not dare to cause harm. <BR/><BR/>I sincerely hope you will see the light eventualy and stop threatning my people. Do note that we have survived Serb terror for centuries and will will outlive it each time. The difference next time of course (unless you become wise) is we will have 400 tanks, 20 bombers, and an army willing to truly fight for their families (not a dictator like Milosevic).<BR/><BR/>Peace to you Martyr, <BR/>an Albanian from KosovaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124980632548993772005-08-25T10:37:00.000-04:002005-08-25T10:37:00.000-04:00the ONLY TIME Kosovo WAS ALBANIAN (I WAITED SO LON...the ONLY TIME Kosovo WAS ALBANIAN (I WAITED SO LONG FOR U TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION AND SINCE NONE OF U HAVE COURAGE TO ADDRESS IT I WILL DO IT FOR YOU) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA PATHETIC , HAHA WHAT WILL U DO WHEN NATO LEAVES???????? <BR/><BR/>Greater Albania<BR/>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.<BR/><BR/>During World War II, the dream of a Great Albania became a reality with the fall of Yugoslavia in 1941. Great Albania was established under Italian tutelage including Kosovo, Metohia and parts of Vardar Macedonia, Western part of Aegean Macedonia, and parts of Greek's Epirus. Also, some Albanian troops (battalions Dajti, Tomorri, Rozafa, Taraboshi) incorporated into the Italian army from the former royal Albanian army, with the slogans of building a "Greater Albania". Albanian gendarmerie took over the law enforcement tasks from the Italian carabinieri in the end od 1942. Albanian Fascist Party (Partia Fascist Shqipërisë - PFSh) which was founded in 1939 (as part of the Italian PNF) was granted some autonomy and with lid of Maliq bej Bushati (a former member of the PFSh leadership) renamed as the Guard of Great Albania in 1943.<BR/><BR/>After World War II communist leader Tito had plans for the unification of its client state, Albania, with Kosovo in Yugoslavia. The break between Tito and Stalin in 1948 allowed for independence from Yugoslavia, providing more space for maneuver for Albania, which in the 1960s became a Chinese ally.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124979865894499622005-08-25T10:24:00.000-04:002005-08-25T10:24:00.000-04:00show me what land serbs cliam that is not theirs a...show me what land serbs cliam that is not theirs and has not been theirs for years?? hahahah read it and weep liars and crooks, u steal what is not nor has ever been yours!<BR/><BR/>Demographic history of Kosovo<BR/>From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.<BR/>Contents<BR/> <BR/><BR/>15th century<BR/><BR/>1455: Turkish cadastral tax census (defter)[1] of the Brankovic dynasty lands (covering 80% of present-day Kosovo and Metohija) recorded 480 villages, 13,693 adult males, 12,985 dwellings, 14,087 household heads (480 widows and 13,607 adult males). By ethnicity:<BR/><BR/> * 12,985 Serbian dwellings present in all 480 villages and towns<BR/> * 75 Vlach dwellings in 34 villages<BR/> * 46 Albanian dwellings in 23 villages<BR/> * 17 Bulgarian dwellings in 10 villages<BR/> * 5 Greek dwellings in Lauša, Vučitrn<BR/> * 1 Jewish dwelling in Vučitrn<BR/> * 1 Croat dwelling<BR/><BR/>[edit]<BR/><BR/>17th-18th century<BR/><BR/>The Great Turkish War of 1683-1699 between the Ottomans and the Habsburgs led to the flight of a substantial part of Kosovo's Serbian population to Austrian held Vojvodina and the Military Frontier. Following this an influx of Muslim Albanian[2] from the highlands (Malesi) occurred, mostly into Metohija. The process continued in 18th century[3].<BR/>[edit]<BR/><BR/>19th century<BR/><BR/>19th century data about the population of Kosovo tend to be rather conflicting, giving sometimes numerical superiority to the Serbs and sometimes to the Albanians. Many historians regard Ottoman statistics as being unreliable, as the empire counted its citizens by religion rather than nationality, using birth records rather than surveys of individuals.<BR/><BR/>A study in 1838 by an Austrian physician, dr. Joseph Müller found Metohija to be mostly Slavic (Serbian) in character.[4] Müller gives data for the three counties (Bezirke) of Prizren, Pec and Djakovica which roughly covered Metohija, the portion adjacent to Albania and most affected by Albanian settlers. Out of 195,000 inhabitants in Metohija, Müller found:<BR/><BR/> * 73,572 Orthodox Serbs 38%<BR/> * 5,120 Catholic Albanians 3%<BR/> * 2,308 other non-Muslims (Vlachs etc.)<BR/> * 114,000 Muslims (58%), of which:<BR/> o c. 38,000 are Serbs (19%)<BR/> o c. 76,000 are Albanians (39%)<BR/><BR/>Müller's observations on towns:<BR/><BR/> * Peć: 11.050 Serbs, 500 Albanians<BR/> * Prizren: 16,800 Serbs, 6150 Albanians<BR/> * Đakovica: majority of Albanians, surrounding villages Serbian<BR/><BR/>Map published by French ethnographer G. Lejean[5] in 1861 shows that Albanians lived on around 57% of the territory of today's province while a similar map, published by British travellers G. M. Mackenzie and A. P. Irby[6] in 1867 shows slightly less; these maps don't show which population was larger overall.<BR/><BR/>A study done in 1871 by Austrian colonel Peter Kukulj[7] for the internal use of the Austro-Hungarian army showed that the mutesarifluk of Prizren (corresponding largely to present-day Kosovo and Metohija) had some 500,000 inhabitants, of which:<BR/><BR/> * 318.000 Serbs (64%),<BR/> * 161.000 Albanians (32%),<BR/> * 10.000 Roma (Gypsies) and Circassians,<BR/> * 2.000 Turks<BR/><BR/>Miloš S. Milojević travelled the region in 1871-1877 and left accounts which testify that Serbs were majority population, and were predominant in all cities, while Albanians were minority and lived mostly in villages[8]. According to his data, Albanians were majority population in southern Drenica (Muslim Albanians), and in region around Djakovica (Catholic Albanians), while the city was majorly Serbian. He also recorded several settlements of Turks, Roma and Circassians.<BR/><BR/>It is estimated that some 400,000[9] Serbs were cleansed out of the Vilayet of Kosovo between 1876 and 1912, especially during the Greek-Turkish war of 1897.<BR/><BR/>Maps published by German historian Kiepert[10] in 1876, J. Hahn[11] and Austrian consul K. Sax[12], show that Albanians live on most of the territory of today's province, however they don't show which population is larger. According to these, the regions of Kosovska Mitrovica and Kosovo Polje were settled mostly by Serbs, whereas most of the terrirory of western and eastern parts of today's province was settled by Muslim Albanians.<BR/><BR/>An Austrian statistics[13] published in 1899 estimated:<BR/><BR/> * 182,650 Albanians (47.88%)<BR/> * 166,700 Serbs (43.70%)<BR/> * Remaining 8.42% Tsintsars, Turks, Circassians, Roma and Jews<BR/><BR/>[edit]<BR/><BR/>20th century<BR/><BR/>British journalist H. Brailsford estimated[14] that two-thirds of the population of Kosovo was Albanian and one-third Serbian. The most populous western districts of Djakovica and Pec were said to have between 20,000 and 25,000 Albanian households, as against some 5,000 Serbian ones. Map of Alfred Stead[15], published in 1909, shows that similar numbers of Serbs and Albanians were living in the territory.<BR/><BR/>German scholar Gustav Weigand gave the following statistical data about the population of Kosovo in Ethnography of Macedonia (1924, written 1919), based on the pre-war situation in Kosovo in 1912:<BR/><BR/> * Pristina District: 67% Albanians, 30% Serbs<BR/> * Prizren District: 63% Albanians, 36% Serbs<BR/> * Vucitrn District: 90% Albanians, 10% Serbs<BR/> * Ferizovic (Urosevac) District: 70% Albanians, 30% Serbs<BR/> * Gilani (Gnjilane) District: 75% Albanians, 23% Serbs<BR/> * Mitrovica District: 40% Albanians, 60% Serbs<BR/><BR/>Metohija with the town of Djakovica is furthermore defined as almost exclusively Albanian by Weigand.<BR/>[edit]<BR/><BR/>Serbia and Yugoslavia<BR/>[edit]<BR/><BR/>Balkan Wars and World War I-World War II<BR/><BR/>Retaking of Kosovo by Serbia in 1912 resulting in suppression of the local Albanian population and ethnic cleansning of some regions[16].<BR/><BR/> * 1921 439,010 total inhabitants[17]<BR/><BR/>A map of the Serbian census of 1921[18] shows that most of the terrirory was settled by Albanians, with Serbian enclaves around Prizren, Sredska Zupa and Pristina. Religion on the largest part of the territory was Islam with Eastern Orthodox enclaves around Kosovska Mitrovica, Pristina and Gnjilane[19].<BR/><BR/> * 1931 552,064 total inhabitants[20]<BR/><BR/>[edit]<BR/><BR/>World War II-1968<BR/><BR/>Most of the teritorry of today's province is occupied by Italian-occupied Greater Albania, massacres of some 10,000[21] Serbs, ethnic cleansing of about 80[22]-100,000[23][24] and settling of 100,000[25] of Albanians from Albania.<BR/><BR/> * 1948: 727,820 total inhabitants[26]; 498,242 Albanians or 68.46%[27]<BR/> * 1953: 524,559 Albanians or 65%[28]<BR/> * 1961: 646,604 Albanians or 67.1%[29]<BR/><BR/>[edit]<BR/><BR/>1968-1989: Autonomy<BR/><BR/>After the province gained autonomy, local provincial Statistical office given authority over census whereas the rest of the country's census was under the tutelage of the Federal Statistical Commission. Allegations of census rigging (for the 1971 and 1981) by Turk, Muslim and Roma minorities who claim forceful Albanization. Serb claims Albanians drastically overincreased their own numbers. Nothing could be substantiated though because the Kosovo Statistical offices were under exclusive Albanian control which was against the national norm at the time which dicated that census takers had to be of different nationalities (i.e. one Albanian and one Serb not both Albanian as was the case in the two following censa).<BR/><BR/>1971: 1,243,693 total inhabitants[30]<BR/><BR/> * 916,168 Albanians or 73.7%[31]<BR/> * 259,816 Serbs/Montengrins or 20.9%[32]<BR/> * 26,000 Muslims or 2.1%<BR/> * 14,593 Roma or 1.2%<BR/> * 12,244 Turks or 1.0%<BR/> * 8,000 Croats or 0.7%<BR/><BR/>Albanians take ever-increasing control of Autonomous province with the introduction of the 1974 Constitution of SFRY.<BR/><BR/> * 1981:<BR/><BR/>1,584,440 total inhabitants<BR/><BR/> * 1,226,736 Albanians 77.42%<BR/> * 236,525 Serbs/Montenegrins 14.93%[33][34]<BR/><BR/>[edit]<BR/><BR/>1989-1999: Centralized Yugoslav Control<BR/><BR/>Yugoslav Central Government reasserts control over Kosovo in 1989.<BR/><BR/>Official Yugoslav statistical results, almost all Albanians and some Roma, Muslims boyott the census following a call by Ibrahim Rugova to boycott Serbian institutions. 1991 359,346 Total population<BR/><BR/> * 214,555 Orthodox Serbs (194,190 Serbians and 20,365 Montenegrins)<BR/> * 9,091 Albanians (most boycotted)<BR/> * 57,758 (Slavic) Muslims<BR/> * 44,307 Roma<BR/> * 10,445 Turks<BR/> * 8,062 Croats (Janjevci, Letnicani)<BR/> * 3,457 Yugoslavs<BR/><BR/>Official Yugoslav statistical corrections and projections, with the help of previous census results (1948-1981):<BR/><BR/>1,956,196 Total population[35] (corrected from 359,346)<BR/><BR/> * 214,555 Orthodox Serbs (194,190 Serbians and 20,365 Montenegrins)<BR/> * 1,596,072 or 81,6 % Albanians (corrected from 9,091)<BR/> * 66,189 (Slavic) Muslims (corrected from 57,758)<BR/> * 45,745 Roma (corrected from 44,307)<BR/> * 10,445 Turks<BR/> * 8,062 Croats (Janjevci, Letnicani)<BR/> * 3,457 Yugoslavs<BR/><BR/>The corrections should not taken to be fully accurate. The number of Albanians is sometimes regarded as being an underestimate. On the other hand, it is sometimes regarded as an overestimate, being derived from earlier censa which are believed to be overestimates. The Statistical Office of Kosovo states that the quality of the 1991 census is "questionable." [36].<BR/>[edit]<BR/><BR/>1999-present: UN administration<BR/><BR/>During the Kosovo War in 1999, over 700,000 ethnic Albanians[37] and around 100,000 ethnic Serbs were forced out of the province to neighbouring Albania, Macedonia, Montenegro, Bosnia and Serbia. After the United Nations took over administration of Kosovo following the war, the vast majority of the Albanian refugees returned.<BR/><BR/>Many non-Albanians - chiefly Serbs and Roma - fled or were expelled, mostly to the rest of Serbia at the end of the war, with further refugee outflows occurring as the result of sporadic ethnic violence. The number of registered refugees is around 250,000[38][39][40]. The non-Albanian population in Kosovo is now about half of its pre-war total. The largest concentration of Serbs in the province is in the north, but many remain in Kosovo Serb enclaves surrounded by Albanian-populated areas.<BR/><BR/>Various, mostly Serbian, sources claim that a large number of Albanians (usually stated as being around 200,000) have moved into Kosovo since 1999, due to the complete liberalization of the Kosovo-Albania border. The veracity of this claim is unclear; the Statistical Office of Kosovo states that "there are at present no reliable statistics on migration in Kosovo."<BR/><BR/>2000 Living Standard Measurement Survey by Statistical Office of Kosovo (rejected by Belgrade[41]). Total population estimated at 1 900 000 est.[42]<BR/><BR/> * 88% Albanians (1,733,600)<BR/> * 7% Serbs (137,900)<BR/> * 3% Muslim Slavs (59,100)<BR/> * 2% Roma (39,400)<BR/> * 1% Turks (19,700)<BR/><BR/>The United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA) estimates the population at 2.0 to 2.2 million people, extrapolating from voter registration data recorded by the UNMIK Department of Local Administration in 2000. [43]<BR/><BR/>Some estimates by Albanian demographers estimate a population of 2.4 million Albanians living in Kosovo today. This is regarded by most independent observers as an overestimate as it would imply a total population of some 2.5-2.6 million people in Kosovo, much higher than other estimates.<BR/>[edit]<BR/><BR/>References<BR/><BR/> 1. ^ The original Turkish-language copy of the census is stored in Istanbul's archives. However, in 1972 the Sarajevo Institute of Middle Eastern Studies translated the census and published an analysis of it Kovačević Mr. Ešref, Handžić A., Hadžibegović H. Oblast Brankovića - Opširni katastarski popis iz 1455., Orijentalni institut, Sarajevo 1972. Subsequently others have covered the subject as well such as Vukanović Tatomir, Srbi na Kosovu, Vranje, 1986.<BR/> 2. ^ Gustav Weigand, Ethnographie von Makedonien, Leipzig, 1924; Густав Вайганд, Етнография на Македония (Bulgarian translation)<BR/> 3. ^ Ibid<BR/> 4. ^ Dr. Joseph Müller, Albanien, Rumelien und die Österreichisch-montenegrinische Gränze, Prag, 1844<BR/> 5. ^ H.R. Wilkinson, Maps and Politics; a review of the ethnographic cartography of Macedonia, Liverpool University Press, 1951<BR/> 6. ^ Ibid<BR/> 7. ^ Das Fürstenthum Serbien und Türkisch-Serbien, eine militärisch-geographische Skizze von Peter Kukolj, Major im k.k.Generalstabe, Wien 1871<BR/> 8. ^ ISBN 86-80029-29-7: Mirčeta Vemić: Ethnic Map of a Part of Ancient Serbia: According to the travel-record of Miloš S. Milojević 1871-1877, Belgrade, 2005<BR/> 9. ^ ISBN 86-17-09287-4: Коста Николић, Никола Жутић, Момчило Павловић, Зорица Шпадијер: Историја за трећи разред гимназије природно-математичког смера и четврти разред гимназије општег и друштвено-језичког смера, Belgrade, 2002, pg. 63<BR/> 10. ^ Wilkinson, Op. cit.<BR/> 11. ^ Ibid<BR/> 12. ^ Ibid<BR/> 13. ^ Detailbeschreibung des Sandzaks Plevlje und des Vilajets Kosovo (Mit 8 Beilagen und 10 Taffeln), Als Manuskript gedruckt, Vien 1899, 80-81.<BR/> 14. ^ H. N. Brailsford, Macedonia, Its Races and Their Future, London, 1906<BR/> 15. ^ Servia by the Servians, Compiled and Edited by Alfred Stead, With a Map, London (William Heinemann), 1909. (Etnographical Map of Servia, Scale 1:2.750.000).<BR/> 16. ^ Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. (1914). Report of the International Commission To Inquire into the Causes and Conduct of the Balkan Wars. Washington: The Carnegie Endowment.<BR/> 17. ^ Center for Contemporary Journalism<BR/> 18. ^ Zec, Stevan, "Maps of our dividings political atlas of Yugoslav countries in XX century", Beograd : Beogradsko mašinsko-grafičko preduzeće, 1991.<BR/> 19. ^ Center for Contemporary Journalism, Op. cit.<BR/> 20. ^ Ibid<BR/> 21. ^ Serge Krizman, Maps of Yugoslavia at War, Washington 1943.<BR/> 22. ^ Ibid<BR/> 23. ^ Ibid<BR/> 24. ^ Annexe I, by the Serbian Information Centre-London to a report of the Select Committee on Foreign Affairs of the House of Commons of the Parliament of the United Kingdom.<BR/> 25. ^ Krizman, Op. cit.<BR/> 26. ^ Official Yugoslav censa results 1948-1981<BR/> 27. ^ Ibid<BR/> 28. ^ Serbian Information Centre-London, Op. cit.<BR/> 29. ^ Center for Contemporary Journalism, Op. cit.<BR/> 30. ^ Ibid<BR/> 31. ^ Official Yugoslav censa results 1948-1981<BR/> 32. ^ Serbian Information Centre-London, Op. cit.<BR/> 33. ^ Center for Contemporary Journalism, Op. cit.<BR/> 34. ^ Official Yugoslav censa results 1948-1981<BR/> 35. ^ BBC: [44]<BR/> 36. ^ OSCE: "Kosovo/Kosova As Seen As Told"<BR/> 37. ^ Coordination Centre of Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and Republic of Serbia for Kosovo and Metohija<BR/> 38. ^ UNHCR: 2002 Annual Statistical Report: Serbia and Montenegro, pg. 9<BR/> 39. ^ USCR: Country report: Yugoslavia<BR/> 40. ^ People's Daily: Belgrade to Reject Results of U.N.-Conducted Census in Kosovo<BR/> 41. ^ Living Standard Measurement Survey 2000, Statistical Office of Kosovo - see also Kosovo and its Population<BR/><BR/>Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Kosovo"<BR/><BR/>Categories: History of KosovoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124960910487300262005-08-25T05:08:00.000-04:002005-08-25T05:08:00.000-04:00"illiria stretch from zagreb to greece, why not cl...<I>"illiria stretch from zagreb to greece, why not claim everything????"</I><BR/><BR/>Cause we're not Serb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124941108996289132005-08-24T23:38:00.000-04:002005-08-24T23:38:00.000-04:00hahahhahaIn the south-east, the Serbs lived in Kos...hahahhaha<BR/>In the south-east, the Serbs lived in Kosovo and their southern boundary was somewhere on the Drim river near Mount Debar.[58] In the neighbourhood, somewhere in the region of Elbasan and Tirana, the "Arbani" (Albanians) were being mentioned from the middle of the 11th century.[59]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124940637975518762005-08-24T23:30:00.000-04:002005-08-24T23:30:00.000-04:00again just nonsense show a source prior to the 19t...again just nonsense show a source prior to the 19th cen where the ilirian claim is made, if it was so ur continuity would not have broken, ur ancestors would have preserved the ancient ilir culture wich they did not nor did they speak about it untill again u guys saw croats and serbs claiming the ilirian liniage to justify a formation of yugoslavia, land of many tribes and peoples like the original illirians were, illiria stretch from zagreb to greece, why not claim everything???? n yes 73% of bosnia was in serbian onwership just like 40 % of kosovo was under the ownership of the serb church/;<BR/>Djordje Jankovic<BR/>(Department of Archaeology, Faculty of Philosophy, Belgrade)<BR/><BR/>The Serbs in the Balkans in the light of Archaeological Findings<BR/><BR/>Source: The Serbian Questions in the Balkans, Faculty of Geography, Belgrade, 1995.<BR/><BR/>[Note: prepared for the web and names partially transcripted by "Project Rastko"]<BR/><BR/>A medley of historical circumstances was the reason that the Serbs started living together only after the formation of Yugoslavia in 1918. But even then, the union of the Serbs was not complete. History and archaeology did not realize the Serbian ethnic area as a whole, except for a few exceptions. This was due to a small number of experts and to the Yugoslav orientation, and that is why hardly any research work was done in connection with the early Serbian past.<BR/><BR/>In World War II Germany and Italy divided and separated the Serbs. The consequences of the state breaking apart could not be eradicated even after the victory of the Allies. The Serbian people, divided into new republics, could not take care of their tradition and culture, as well as of their archaeological monuments. There were various national archaeologies, but not the Serbian, in the former Yugoslavia.<BR/><BR/>Still, a portion of archaeological monuments visible on the earth's surface can be used for research. The archaeological findings below the surface of the earth are gradually coming to light. The available archaeological data in the Serbian ethnic area fully confirm and explain the insufficient written historical records. The maps of the archaeological monuments made in different periods of time show the continuity and gradual spreading of the Serbian ethnic area from the early Middle Ages.<BR/><BR/>De administrando Imperio, written by Emperor Constantine Porphyrogenitus VII, is the only written source in which the tradition of the settling of the Serbs is preserved.[1] It originated in the mid 10th century. The history of the Serbs and their territories were depicted in it. According to the story therein, the Serbs who lived in Boyka were divided between the two successors to the throne. The prince of one portion of the people and his people escaped and found shelter with Heraclius, the emperor of Byzantium (610-641). He gave them a town in the Salonica region which was later called Servia, after the Serbs. Then, they started moving towards the Danube river, but they changed their minds and through the Belgrade commander gained a permission from the emperor to settle in Dalmatia.<BR/><BR/>The archaeological science has established a link, which dates back to the 7th century, between the Danube river near Brza Palanka and the region of Pljevlja.[2] This may mean that the Serbs from today's Northeast Serbia moved to the Dalmatian province of the time. This also proves that the fact about the Serbs moving from the vicinity of Salonica towards the Danube river could be true. However, there are no other data on the Serbs in the vicinity of Salonica. So, the data on the Serbs, Salonica, and Servia could be interpreted differently. Namely, the name of Salonica is similar to the name of the classical town of Solin near Split (Salona). Servia, which is around 135 km away from Salonica, bears essentially the same name as the town of Srb near Knin, located some 150 km from Solin. So, one could think that the story was about Srb and Solin, that the Serbs came first to western Dalmatia, and not to Servia and Salonica. These notions show that the problem of the accuracy of the data on the settling of the Serbs could not be solved without archaeological findings.<BR/><BR/>The origin and meaning of the Serbian name have been sought for centuries, but no interpretation has been generally accepted so far. The prevailing view is that the Serbian name is of Iranian origin, even Indo-Iranian.[3] Accepting this or some other assumption about the origin of the Serbian name is hindered by the lack of knowledge of the oldest Serbian history, i.e. the knowledge of the exact time when the group of Slavs were thus named; or, of the time when the bearers of the Serbian name became Slavs. As a people who probably named themselves thus, the Serbs are among the oldest Slav peoples. In the Story of the Past, the first Russian chronicle, the Serbs are among the first five Slav peoples who were enumerated by their names.[4] In this Chronicle, they are mentioned in the light of the events referring to the first millennium before Christ. However, science does not take this source into account because it cannot be checked from the archaeological point of view. The age of the Serbian name is simply proven by its great diffusion in the early Middle Ages. There are not many examples of the sort in Europe. At that time, the Serbs lived on the Laba and in Roman Dalmatia, but they also lived in the above mentioned town of Servia in the region of Salonica. They lived in Gordoserba near Nikea in Asia Minor, too; this was the bishop's town mentioned many times since the beginning of the 7th century.[5] Since there are records of the Serbs living on such a vast area, it is evident that they had been numerous and powerful and borne their name before the resettling of the Slavs in the 6th and 7th centuries. It is also unique that today the Serbs live both in the Balkans and in Germany.<BR/><BR/>The state of Serbia was first mentioned by Emperor Constantine VII. The name Serbia has been mentioned regularly since then. From the 12th century, in western (Latin) written sources, the Serbian state in the river basins of the Drina and Morava was called Raska (Rassa, Rassia).[6] The last time when the name Raska was used for the Serbian region in the mesopotamia between the Sava and Drava rivers and in today's Vojvodina was in the 15th and 16th centuries.[7] The Serbian western states and lands were named mostly by the local names of Bosnia, Rama, Herzegovina, etc.<BR/><BR/>In the Byzantine written sources the Serbs are frequently mentioned by their classical names, after the regions they lived in (Dalmatians, Tribali, Dacians, etc.). They were most frequently called Dalmatians, after the Roman province of Dalmatia, the country they lived in. This was the land extending from Kosovo and the towns of Lipljan and Zvecan.[8] The Chronicle of the Frankish Kingdom (year 822) recorded that the Serbs "...had control over a large part of Dalmatia." This fact is related to the region of the Una river.[9] Latin sources of a later date state that the Serbs lived in Dalmatia or Slavonia (Sclavonia), depending on whether the classical or the then term Dalmatia was considered. Namely, the Roman province of Dalmatia extended from Istria to the basin of the Morava river and from the sea to the valley of the Sava river. This is the Dalmatia depicted in the Frankish and Byzantine chronicles. But, since the Byzantine theme of Dalmatia of the time occupied only the narrow littoral belt, the Latin sources sometimes called Serbia by the name of Slavonia, the land which extended between Dalmatia (with the towns of Trogir, Split, Dubrovnik, and Bar) and Hungary.[10]<BR/><BR/>In the last centuries, the Serbs in Dalmatia were called Vlachs, Morlachs (Morlaci), Morovlachs.[11] The Italian sources call even the Serbs from Belgrade by the names of Morlaci and Vlachs.[12] The Slavs called Romanic people and the Romanic people - cattle breeders by the name of Vlachs; later, the name was used for all cattle breeders. When the population of Croatia (Dalmatia) was seriously thinned by the Mongolian invasion in 1242, a new area for settling was open. Later, the "Vlachs" were mentioned in the area of the Cetina river, in Knin, and in Lika.[13]<BR/><BR/>The name "Vlach" was derived for the Serbs because of their cattle breeder's way of life. In the mountainous regions of Dalmatia, especially in the border areas, the Serbs raised cattle by tradition. This helped them to survive more easily in the wars that they had to fight constantly. From the earliest times, one of the characteristics that distinguished the Serbs from their neighbours was cattle breeding. The nature of the Serbian economy, which has in some modes persisted till the present day, is evident both in archaeological and written sources.<BR/><BR/>Constantine Porphyrogenitus VII was the first who recorded the Serbian cattle breeding trade. He wrote that the Serbs of Pagania lived on the islands of Mljet, Korcula, Brac and Hvar, and that "...they owned their herds and lived off them."[14] Jovan Kinam, in his description of the conquest of Galic near Kosovska Mitrovica in 1149, wrote that the Byzantines imprisoned many barbarians "...who were partly warriors and partly cattle breeders."[15] The western sources from the same period also recorded the Serbian cattle breeding. In the second half of the 12th century, Wilhelm of Tyr wrote that the Serbs lived in mountains and woods, that they did not know much about agriculture, and that they had many herds of cattle, much milk, cheese, butter, honey, and wax.[16]<BR/><BR/>This, still preserved, cattle breeding way of life of the Serbs was best described by Jovan Cvijic.[17] Their seasonal movements, singled out in his works, from the Dinaric region to the mesopotamia between the Sava and Drava rivers, and partly to the Littoral, gave an exact picture of the old Serbian ethnic area. The settlements were located in the mountainous regions, and in winter the pastures were looked for in the plains. The Serbs followed the same pattern in the Middle Ages as well, when they settled the Dinaric mountains, with many plateaus, and the neighbouring sunny valleys and plains suitable for winter homes. The arrangement of settlements and graveyards, the appearance of homesteads, the crafts, and the character of the population had to be in accordance with their way of life.<BR/><BR/>It is certain that other Slav groups also settled the today's Serbian territory in the early Middle Ages. In the written sources of the time, these groups of Slavs were not usually mentioned by names since they were not numerous. Various written sources from the 9th and 10th centuries state that the Serbs in the Balkan peninsula were surrounded by some tribes that also lived in the neighbourhood of the Serbs on the Laba river. These tribes merged into one and the same Serbian people. The process of amalgamation was completed in the 13th century although the assimilation of the new Slav groups continued.<BR/><BR/>Thus, Constantine VII records that Prince Mihailo of Zahumlje descended from the Litcik family. At the same time the Licikaviki lived between the lower Odra and Varta river basins.[18] It seems that the today's town of Vukovar (in the past called Vlcou, Wolkov, Volkow) got its name after the Vilci family (Wolves) that lived on the Laba river in the Meklenburg region.[19] It is necessary to take into account the other Slavs who were known to be living in the north - the Havolians on the Havela river, then the Ljutici, Glinjani, Glomaci, Moracani, etc. It can be assumed that even the members of the South Slav tribes reached Dalmatia.<BR/><BR/>***<BR/><BR/>It has been established that since the middle of the 5th century the Slavs kept settling the territories under the Roman control. That was the time when the Roman defence on the Danube was crushed by the Hun-German invasion. That was the time when the oldest Slav settlement in the Balkans dated. It was situated near Musici, on the Drina river.[20] The written and archaeological sources state that the South Slavs settled the Balkan and western Pannonian regions during the second half of the 6th century and at the beginning of the 7th.[21] At that early time one should distinguish the South Slavs from the Serbs.<BR/><BR/>The culture of the South Slavs is well known thanks to the researches carried out in Bulgaria, Romania, and in our country.[22] The settlements were located in river valleys, on gentle slopes, close to the water. Half-buried wooden houses had stone or earthen furnaces in one of the corners. In most cases only the quadrangular buried construction and the furnace remained intact. They burnt their dead, as all other Slavs did, and then buried them in the ground, with or without urns. Such settlements and graveyards on the territory of the former Yugoslavia are known to exist in the Danube and in the Sava Basins.[23]<BR/><BR/>The Serbs lived in hilly-mountainous regions. Their settlements with houses above the ground were situated on the slopes, close to wells and ponds. The fireplace was on the floor of the house, close to the wall or in the corner. Not much could be saved of these houses, so they are not easy to locate. The whereabouts of an early Serbian settlement have been established in the Pester field.[24] The only explored settlement is situated in Batkovici near the town of Bijeljina.[25] Shallow foundations of irregular shape - the remains of these houses above the ground - were found here. This settlement was populated throughout the Middle Ages, starting from the early 7th century.<BR/><BR/>The Serbs cremated their dead and displayed the remains above the ground. It was a special way of burial in the air. Only under certain conditions the archaeological findings of this custom could be called graves. This procedure with the dead is depicted in the Story of the Past.[26] These "graves" were archaeologically explored in the area of Luzicani.[27] Today, they are small mounds of about 3 m in diameter and 0.5 m by height. The construction of the burial mounds has not been sufficiently explored. Shattered pieces of the dishes which were used in the funeral and memorial feasts are sometimes found along the brim or inside the burial mound.<BR/><BR/>The Serbian graveyards from the 7th and 8th centuries were archaeologically explored in Ljutici near the town of Pljevlja, and on Mount Jezerska between the towns of Prizren and Strpce.[28] Since these burial mounds were easy to notice, they were also found on many other sites - on Mount Pester and by the towns of Savnik, Drvar, Grahovo, Srb, etc. A burial mound near the town of Konjic was partly explored.[29] With the abundance of earthenware findings, it is similar to the burial mounds on the Danube river found on Ostrovul Mare in Romania.[30] These graveyards can hardly be preserved on cultivable land with no rocks. In the Pannonian Plain, or on similar grounds, they could only be preserved and noticed by accident. The graveyard on Ostrovul Mare is not destroyed as there were meadows there, not cultivable land.<BR/><BR/>The graveyards with burial mounds are usually located near a water spring, which shows that there were settlements in the vicinity. As a rule, even today, modern settlements and sheepfolds are situated close to these graveyards although no traces of the previous settlements have been discovered so far. But, they existed and this is supported by indirect proofs of social life in the vicinity. Namely, in the Story of the Past were depicted pagan "igrista" (playgrounds) between the villages.[31] There, the pagan Slavs gathered, danced, and got married. In Emperor Dushan's Charter (1331-1355) to Chilandarion, in which the boundaries near the monastery of St. Peter Koriski were described, a toponym for one of the peaks of Mount Jezerska was "Igriste".[32] This means that both the Serbian graveyard and a pagan centre of social life were situated on Mount Jezerska, which certainly proves that people lived there in the surrounding villages. Such toponyms still exist. For example, in central Bosnia, east of the town of Kakanj, there is Igrisca peak (1303 m) and on Mount Javor, south of Vlasenica - Igriste (1406 m).<BR/><BR/>So, the Serbian settlements as well as their graveyards were situated in the hilly-mountainous region such as the Dinaric region. In these regions people mostly raised cattle. The line that connects the locations of the explored burial mounds denotes the area in which the Serbs lived in the 7th and 8th centuries: from the divide of the Sitnica and Lepenac rivers in the south-east to the basin of the Una river in the west. There are no data about the eastern boundaries so far.<BR/><BR/> <BR/>Fig. 1.- Serbs in the 7th-8th centuries [click for the large image]<BR/><BR/>1. Known locations of Serbian tombs. 2. Studied Serbian tombs. 3. Slav urns of the 6th-7th centuries. 4. Croatian cemeteries or the 7th-9th centuries. 5. Tombs of the Komani-Kruje culture. 6. Studied Slav settlements. 7. Byzantine (Romanic) towns. 8. Borders of Roman provinces.<BR/><BR/>The area beyond these boundaries offers archaeological traces of the South Slavs and other peoples. The graveyards common in the South Slav culture, with the remains of the dead cremated and buried in the ground, have been discovered in the Danube basin (Celarevo, Slankamen)[33] and in the Sava basin (Laktasi, Bijeljina).[34] These findings determine the former northern boundaries of the Serbs. Such graves in the Littoral could possibly belong to the Croats (Kasic,[35] Bakar[36]). Within the boundaries of the medieval Croatia, in the Littoral, archaeologists found numerous skeleton graveyards which undoubtedly belonged to the Croats from the time when they adopted Christianity in the 8th and 9th centuries.[37] These graveyards determine the possible south-western boundaries of the Serbs.<BR/><BR/>Apart from the Slavs, the population that spoke the Romance languages also lived on this territory. The archaeological findings until the 7th century inclusive give information about the Romanic people or Byzantines living in the hinterland.[38] The Romanic people, known in the written sources, stayed longer in the Littoral - in the towns such as Durazzo, Dubrovnik or Zadar. The town of Svac, about 10 km far from the Coast and Ulcinj, is very significant.[39] The crypts in which the dead were buried in the Christian tradition were discovered in this town. Byzantine jewellery, dishes, and other objects known in the Byzantine regions extending from Crimea, across Sicily, to Istria were found lying by the skeletons. The objects of the Slav origin, such as pots made on a slow wheel and decorated with a comb, were also found. Similar graveyards were also discovered in Durazzo.[40]<BR/><BR/>These Byzantine graveyards are particularly important for establishing the origin of the Koman-Kruje culture. This culture appeared at the end of the 7th century and disappeared in the 9th. Albanian scientists are trying to use this culture in order to prove the continuity between the old Romanized population and the Albanians of today.[41] However, these skeleton graveyards conceal the remains of special costumes and presents. Unique buckles, shackles known with some nomads, axes as weapons, and imported Byzantine jewellery were found. These findings differentiate this population from the Romanic people of Svac and Durazzo, where there are no such objects. Since the graveyards in the Koman-Kruje culture are situated in the mountains, one should have in mind cattle breeders here. They lived in the area from Mount Rumija to Ohrid Lake. Everything points to the fact that the bearers of the Koman-Kruje culture arrived there at the end of the 7th century.[42] They were probably settled in the region in order to defend the Durazzo-Salonica road, and they were destroyed when the Bulgarians started spreading in the hinterland of Durazzo in the 9th century.<BR/><BR/>Archaeological findings of the South Slav, Romanic, and Croatian tribes as well as of the Koman-Kruje culture delineate the ethnic area of the Serbs. It is necessary to point out that all the archaeological data on the Serbs coincide with those of their neighbours.<BR/><BR/>The history of the Serbs in the 9th and 10th centuries is much better known thanks to the work of Emperor Constantine VII. He was rather precise in delineating the boundaries of the Serbian lands in the Littoral. According to him the Serbs lived in Duklja, Travunia and Konavle, Zahumlje, Pagania, and Serbia. The first to come across in the south-east was Duklja in the hinterland of Durazzo, Ljes, Bar, Kotor, and Ulcinj. In the north-west, Pagania was the last Serbian land in the Littoral which bordered on Croatia on the Cetina river. Zahumlje also bordered on Croatia "towards the north". Duklja, Travunia, and Zahumlje bordered on Serbia by the mountains in the hinterland. Serbia "...borders on Croatia in the north and on Bulgaria in the south...," i.e. it reaches to the Croats on the Sava river in the north-west and to Bulgaria on the Vardar river in the south-east. The boundaries of the coastal Croatia were clearly defined, from the Cetina river to the town of Labin in Istria, with the borders on Serbia "...towards the Cetina river and the town of Liven."<BR/><BR/>Of the eight towns in the principality of Serbia mentioned by Constantine VII the location of almost none of them has yet been clearly defined. If we presume that the towns were listed in some specific order, their locations could be more or less defined based on our knowledge of the locations of the ones already found. The reliable data show that the first of the listed towns Destinik was in Metohia.[43] The next two towns, Cernavusk and Medjurecje were probably situated somewhere to the west of Metohia. The following Dresneik could be Dreznik, the town near the Una river. Between Dresneik and the town of Salines (undoubtedly Tuzla of today, the former Soli) was Lesnik of unknown location. The last two towns, listed in Bosnia, but in the principality of Serbia, were Kotor and Desnik. One of them was near Sarajevo, in the area of Rogacici[44] or Ilidza[45] where some church remains of the period were discovered. The other could be by Desetnik near the town of Kakanj.<BR/><BR/>The boundaries of Croatia are important for the delineation of the western boundaries of the Serbs.[46] When Serbian Prince Czaslav died around 950, Croatia expanded to the banovina (administrative unit) of Krbava, Lika and Gacko.[47] The data explaining the concept of this administrative unit are found in the Annals of the Frankish Kingdom although the Croats are not mentioned. Prince Borna (around 818-821) is mentioned as the prince of the Guduscani, the people that undoubtedly lived in the region of present-day Lika, i.e. between the Croatia in the Littoral and the Croatia on the Sava river.[48] A little later, it is described how Prince Ljudevit's rebellion against the Prankish authorities was crushed. In 822, Ljudevit fled from Sisak and found shelter with one of the Serbian zhupans. He killed his host and tried to take over his state but had to flee towards the sea where he was murdered. As mentioned earlier, given the route which Prince Ljudevit had to take and the data on the state and the town of Srb in the 14th century, it seems that he must have found shelter in today's Srb near the headwaters of the Una river. Accordingly, in the 9th and 10th centuries, in the farthest west, Serbia bordered on the region of Guduscani in today's Lika, which was included in Croatia later on.<BR/><BR/>The area of the northern Croatia in the continental part has not been conclusively established. That is why it is more difficult to define the northern boundaries of the Serbs. The boundaries of Zagreb bishopric, constituted at the end of the 11th century, show where the northern boundary of Serbia might have been. It is common in Hungary that the territories of bishoprics coincide with the boundaries of administrative regions. This means that the boundaries of the new bishopric were set around the territory of the old principality with the seat in Zagreb. Thus, the southern boundary of Zagreb bishopric, i.e. of the older principality on the Sava river, extended in the direction Zrinska Gora - Bela Krajina.[49] So, in the 9th and 10th centuries, the Serbs could reach the mesopotamia between the Una and Krka rivers with today's Banija and Kordun (the regions favourable for cattle breeding). Given the structure of the soil, the Serbs could spread over the mountains in the direction of Ogulin.<BR/><BR/>In the 9th century, Prince Kocelj (861-876) ruled the Lower Pannonia - Vukovo, Srem, Macva. The name of the today's village of Koceljeva in Macva confirms that Serbia bordered on Pannonia. Pope John VIII (872-882) wrote to the Serbian Prince Mutimir (around 850-891/2) to subjugate his bishopric to the Pannonian archbishopric of Saint Methodius.[50] This is just an additional proof that in the north Serbia bordered directly on the regions ruled by Prince Kocelj. Scarce data on the Hungarian inroads into our lands at the beginning of the 10th century cited that Zagreb, Pozega, and Vukovo were looted while neither the Serbs nor Croats were mentioned.[51] This proves that these towns were probably the seats of several principalities of the Croats, Vilci (Wolves), and of the third tribe of an unknown name. At the time of Prince Czaslav (927/928-around 950), the boundary of Serbia could reach the Drava and Danube rivers.[52]<BR/><BR/>In the north-east and east, the border shifted due to the clashes with Bulgaria. In the mid 10th century, the Morava principality was situated somewhere in the region of Sumadija, the Morava river basin and Branicevo.[53] Based on the location of this principality, the north-east boundary of Serbia coincided approximately with the boundary of Roman Dalmatia - from Mount Cer to Mount Rudnik. Then the border ran southward, between the Zapadna /Western/ and Juzna /Southern/ Morava river basins. It is now difficult to define where exactly the southern boundary was, but it should be somewhere on the watershed of the Morava and Vardar rivers, and on the watershed of the Vardar and Drim rivers.<BR/><BR/> <BR/>Fig. 2. Serbs in the middle of the 10th century [click for the large image]<BR/><BR/>The archaeological data on the Serbs in the 9th and 10th centuries are too scarce to be used for defining their ethnic area. If compared to the neighbouring countries, known for their numerous sometimes lavish findings, one could get a completely wrong idea about the Serbia of the period. Capital cities, towns, and the seats of bishoprics have not been explored in the Serbian region. Some examples, however, show that this could be a wrong conclusion. The Church of SS Peter and Paul in Ras is the only original bishopric church of the Slavs which is still more or less unchanged. This is a rare example of at least one thousand years long tradition and continuity.[54][55] Another clear proof is the preserved portion of the potter's inscription in Glagolitic about the volume of the jug from Cecan, Kosovo.[56] This not only speaks of the widespread literacy, but also of the stage of development of the state in which the units of measurement were used and the taxes were fixed. At present, we can only speculate about the significant role which Serbia played in the world of the Slavs.<BR/><BR/>Archaeology cannot shed more light on the period of the 11th and 12th centuries, either. Although the foreign relations changed, the Serbian state was still powerful and more or less of the same size. During the rule of King Mihailo (around 1055-1082) and Constantine Bodin (around 1082-1101), Serbia was a serious adversary of the neighbouring countries. It is worth mentioning the Crusaders' journey under Raymond of Toulouse in the winter of 1096/1097. They travelled for almost 40 days through "Slavonia" (Sclavonia), from the western border to Scutari where they were met by King Bodin.[57] Considering the length of the journey, they probably entered Serbia somewhere in Lika, the westernmost region of Serbia.<BR/><BR/>In the south-east, the Serbs lived in Kosovo and their southern boundary was somewhere on the Drim river near Mount Debar.[58] In the neighbourhood, somewhere in the region of Elbasan and Tirana, the "Arbani" (Albanians) were being mentioned from the middle of the 11th century.[59]<BR/><BR/>The schism of the Church and the appearance of Bogumilism had a rather negative impact on the Serbs. Under the pressure of the Hungarians and Rome, in the crusades, the north-west parts of Serbia were taken from it. Later, these parts united under the name of Bosnia. Throughout many centuries, there were constant attempts to convert the Serbian and other Slav population to Catholicism and to include them into a nameless Slav corpus in the Hungarian state. However, a continuous mentioning of the "schismatics" in the mesopotamia between the Sava and Drava rivers, and in Vojvodina show that the Slavonic, i.e. the Orthodox Christian Church service had remained uninterrupted until the Turks came.[60] In the 14th and 15th centuries, the Orthodox Slavs in Hungary could not be differentiated from the Serbs, either because the Serbs had lived there before or because they were assimilated.<BR/><BR/>The territorial ratio of the Orthodox Church to the Catholic Church is evident in the distribution of the epigraphs. Until the 13th century, Cyrillic monuments spread to the island of Brac and the Cetina river in the west, and in the hinterland they reached the original Bosnia.[61] Later on, in the 14th and 15th centuries, epigraphs became more numerous, and very common on tombstones. They were recorded west of the line: Mljet (island) - Peljesac (peninsula) - Gradacac - Pakrac (towns).[62] A considerable number of Latin epigraphic monuments were also discovered, especially in the Littoral. However, the Slav population could be differentiated by them only in some rare cases. After 1248, when Rome once again allowed the use of the Glagolitic alphabet, many Glagolitic inscriptions appeared.[63] The arrangement of these inscriptions coincided with the spreading of the Cyrillic alphabet in the west. Insignificant overlaps show that there were no significant shifting of the Serbs towards the west. Thus the western boundary of the Serbian ethnic area was determined in the late Middle Ages.<BR/><BR/> <BR/>Fig. 3.- Distribution of the medieval epigraphic monuments [click for the large image]<BR/><BR/>The original ethnic area of the Serbs kept its cultural homogenity although they were divided in ten or so small states from the end of the 14th century. The best examples of the above are the tombstones. These tombstones are massive and usually in the form of different casks. Some of them are ornamented either with small figures, symbolic drawings or some other ornaments. The Serbian art is well known and has attracted much attention ever since. For long, propaganda has presented these tombstones as a form of the Bogumil art, which was wrong.[64] Inscriptions on the tombstones are all in Cyrillic.<BR/><BR/>Graveyards with tombstones were situated in the same area where the old pagan graveyards with burial mounds were. This means that the settlements probably were nearby, and that the old cattle breeders' way of life was preserved. With the spreading of the Serbian cattle breeders towards the west (the Vlachs) the use of the tombstones increased and there were many of them in Dalmatia and in the Krajina, from the Cetina river to Lika and Pakrac.<BR/><BR/>Graveyards with tombstones are located by the churches, both the destroyed ones and those still in existence where people are being buried.[65] As a rule, these churches face east, the Orthodox churches, as the tombstones themselves. Very rarely these churches and contemporary graveyards with tombstones are Catholic. When it is possible to determine the original appearance of the present-day Catholic church it becomes obvious that these churches are the remodelled ones. For example, St. George's Church in Cavtat, surrounded by broken tombstones, has a flat wall on the east side. But in the altar, a semicircular apse can be seen in the floor. In Mokro Polje, by Zavodje near Knin, in a preserved graveyard with tombstones, there are church ruins with semicircular apse. The apse passes into a flat wall towards east, as in Cavtat. This allows a supposition that all the churches located in the graveyards with tombstones used to be Orthodox churches.<BR/><BR/>At the locations of the tombstones, pottery from the same period was collected during archaeological excavations. This is the pottery characteristic of the Serbian Dinaric region, unpolished, made on a slow wheel. The pottery is represented mostly by cooking pots with long open brim, without ornaments or variegated with wavelike impressions, stripes and small pits. At the bottom they could have a seal print from the wheel. They were found in the fortified towns westward of the Drina river[66] and in the explored monasteries in the region of the Despotovina.[67] They date back to the time of the Turkish inroads - the late 14th and 15th centuries. Such pottery is the characteristic of the original Serbian ethnic area preserved until the present. The locations of the workshops with slow wheels in the 20th century coincide with the locations where the pots of the same make were found in the 14th and 15th centuries; even the appearance or the pots was the same.[68][69]<BR/><BR/> <BR/>Fig. 4. - Tombstones in the 14th-16th centuries [click for the large image]<BR/><BR/>During the 13th and 14th centuries, the Serbian ethnic area in the east was formed. After the fall of the Byzantine Empire in 1204, the Nemanyich shifted the borders of Serbia towards the east and south. Ac the time of Emperor Stephen Dushan, the eastern border ran from Djerdap to the Struma river valley, and it reached the Gulf of Corinth in the south. These events and the borders are well-known thanks to the written historical data. The cultural monuments of the Serbs and other Slavs in the liberated and annexed regions somewhat differed due to the Byzantine influence. Still, although many churches have been preserved, there are not very many archaeological data related to the Vardar and Struma river basins.<BR/><BR/>The region which pretty much coincided with the idea of today's central Serbia was formed at the time of Prince Lazar (1371-1389). Although constantly threatened by the Turks, the Serbs developed material and spiritual culture under the strong influence of theologians, artists, and craftsmen from Constantinople and Thessaloniki. Cultural and industrial peak was reached at the time of the Despotovina. In the sense of archaeology, apart from unique churches and towns, the Serbian Despotovina was known for its jewellery and especially for the pottery. Glazed bowls, dishes, plates, jugs, and flasks bear specific ornaments impressed in "zgraphito" technique. Cooking pots were mostly made on a fast wheel. They had long open brims and were ornamented alternately with ribs with small pits and an engraved ornament.<BR/><BR/>The pottery of the Serbian Despotovina is also known in the region of Kljuc and the Negotin Krajina.[70] After Turkey had annexed Vidin in 1396, these regions became a part of Serbia and remained within the Serbian boundaries until the fall of the Despotovina under the Turkish rule in 1459. Although there are no specific historical data,[71] this is confirmed by the existence of the pottery. The distribution of the findings of this special pottery makes it possible for archaeologists to follow the movements of the Serbs caused by the Muslim invasion. In southern Hungary (today's Vojvodina, the mesopotamia between the Sava and Drava rivers, Baranja), among the pieces of pottery of central European style, it is easy to discern the rougher Serbian pottery pieces dating back to the 14th and 15th centuries, as well as the pieces of the Byzantine style.[72]<BR/><BR/> <BR/>Fig. 5. - Distribution of the late medieval Serbian pottery [click for the large image]<BR/><BR/>This survey based on the available archaeological data has pointed to the undoubted continuity on the Serbian ethnic area. This is the area that has not undergone any considerable changes since the 7th century. Certain spreading of the Serbian people is understandable since the Serbs have always been the most numerous Slav people in the Balkans.<BR/><BR/>Footnotes<BR/><BR/><BR/>Constantine Porphyrogenitus, De administrando Imperio, ed. Gy. Moravcsik, English translation by R. J. H. Jenkins (Budapest, 1949).<BR/><BR/>Milica and Djordje Jankovic, Sloveni u jugoslovenskom Podunavlju /The Slavs in the Yugoslav Danube Basin/ (Belgrade: Muzej grada Beograda, 1990), pp. 20,25.<BR/>Georgiy A. Haburgaev, Etnonimiya "Povesti vremennih let" (Moscow: Izdatelstvo Moskovskogo universiteta, 1979). pp.210-212.<BR/><BR/>Povest vremennih let (Moscow, Leningrad: Akademiya nauk SSSR, 1990), pp.11, 207.<BR/><BR/>Heinrich Gelzer, Ungedruckte und ungenugend veroffentlichte Texte der Notitiae episcopatuum (Munich, 1901), pp. 538-545.<BR/><BR/>Jovanka Kalic, "Naziv Raska u starijoj srpskoj istoriji (IX-XII vek)," /Name Rashka in the Early Serbian History (9th-12th centuries)/ in Zbornik Filozofskog fakulteta, XIV-1 (Belgrade, 1979), pp. 79-91.<BR/><BR/>Sima Cirkovic, Istorija srpskog naroda /History of the Serbian People/ (Belgrade: SKZ, 1982) II, p.376<BR/><BR/>Anne Comnene, Alexiade (Regne de L'Empereur Alexis I Comnene 1081-1118) II, pp. l57:3-l6; 1.66: 25-169. Texte etabli er traduit par B. Leib t. I-III (Paris, 1937-1945).<BR/><BR/>Nada Klaic, Povijest Hrvata u ranom srednjem vijeku /History of the Croats in the early Middle Ages/ (Zagreb: Skolska knjiga, 1975), p. 211.<BR/><BR/>Raimundi de Aguilers canonici Podiensis Historia Francorum qui ceperunt Iherusalem, Recueil des historiens des croisades (Paris, 1866), p. 237.<BR/><BR/>Viaggio in Dalmazia dell'abate Alberto Fortis (Venezia, 1774), 1, 2.<BR/><BR/>Zeljko Skalamera and Marko Popovic, "Novi podaci sa plana Beograda iz 1683." /New Data from the Map of Belgrade of 1683/ in Godisnjak pada Beograda, XXIII (Belgrade, 1976), pp. 40-42.<BR/><BR/>Nada Klaic, Povijest Hrvata u razvijenom srednjem vijeku /History of the Croats.../ (Zagreb: Skolska knjiga, 1976), pp. 600, 607-610.<BR/><BR/>Constantine Porphyrogenitus, Cap. 30.<BR/><BR/>A. Meineke ed. Ioannis Cinnami epitome rerum ab Ioanne et Alexio Comnenis gestarum (Bonnae, 1836), pp. 102:18, 103:19.<BR/><BR/>Willermi Tyrensis archiepiscopi, Historia rerum in partibus transmarinis gestarum, Recueil des historiens des croisades, I (Paris, 1884), XX, 4:946, 947.<BR/><BR/>Jovan Cvijic, Balkansko poluostrvo i jugoslovenske zemlje /Balkan Peninsula and South Slav Countries/ (Belgrade: Drzavna stamparija Kraljevine Srba, Hrvata i Slovenaca, 1922), pp. 279-286.<BR/><BR/>Vidukind Korveyskiy, Deyanija Saksov, ed. G. E. Santchuk (Moscow: "Nauka", 1975), p. 257.<BR/><BR/>Herausgegeben von Joachim Herrmann: Die Slawen in Deutscliland (Berlin: Akademie-Verlag, 1'985).<BR/><BR/>Irma Cremosnik, "Istrazivanja u Musicima i Zabljaku i prvi nalaz najstarijih slovenskih naselja kod nas," /Research in Musici and Zabljak and the first Findings of the earliest Slav Settlements/ in Glasnik zemaljskog muzeja, XXV (Sarajevo, 1970), pp. 45-111.<BR/><BR/>Georgije Ostrogorski, Istorija Vizantije /History of Byzantium/ (Belgrade: Prosveta, 1959), pp. 99-121.<BR/><BR/>Zhivka Vzharove: Slavyanski y slavyanoblgarski selishcha v Blgarskite zemi od kray na VI-XI vek (Sofia: Blgarska akademiya na naukite, arheologicheski institut i muzey, 1965); Slavyani i Prablgari po danni nekropolite ot VI-XI v (Sofia: Blgarska akademiya na naukite, arheologicheski institut i muzey, 1976).<BR/><BR/>Jankovic and Jankovic, Sloveni....<BR/><BR/>Jankovic and Jankovic, "Rekognosciranje...," /Reconnaissance.../ in Arheoloski pregled. 20 (Belgrade, 1978), p. 188.<BR/><BR/>Cremosnik, "Ranoslovensko naselje...," /Early Slav Settlement.../ in Godisnjak ANUBiH, 15 (Sarajevo, 1977), pp. 227-305.<BR/><BR/>Povest vremennih let, pp. 15. 211.<BR/><BR/>Die Slawen in Deutschland, pp.30-31, Fig. 10.<BR/><BR/>Jankovic and Jankovic, Sloveni..., pp.20, 25.<BR/><BR/>Pavao Andjelic, "Dva srednjevekovna nalaza iz Sultica kod Konjica," /"Two Medieval Findings at Sultic near Konjic"/ in Glasnik Zemaljskog muzeja, XIV (Sarajevo, 1959), pp. 203-214.<BR/><BR/>Vasile Boroneant and Ion Stinga, "Cercetarile privind secolul al XII-lea de la Ostrovul Mare," in Drobeta (Turnu Severin: Muzeul regiunii Portilor de fer, 1978), pp. 87-107.<BR/><BR/>Povest vremennih let, pp. 15, 211.<BR/><BR/>Aleksandar V. Solovjev, "Dva priloga proucavanju Dusanove drzave," /Studies of Emperor Dushan's state.../ in Glasnik Skopskog naucnog drustva, II (Skoplje, 1927), pp. 26, 30.<BR/><BR/>Jankovic and Jankovic, Sloveni..., pp. 90, 104-105, 117.<BR/><BR/>Zdenko Zeravica, "Ranoslovenska nekropola Bagrusa u Petosevcima kod Laktasa," /An Early Slav Necropolis.../ in Glasnik Zemaljskog Muzeja, 40-41 (A) (Sarajevo, 1985-1986), pp. 153-154.<BR/><BR/>Janko Belosevic, Materijalna kultura Hrvata od VII do IX stoljeca /Material Culture of the Croats from the 7th to the 9th century/ (Zagreb: Liber, 1980), pp. 46-48.<BR/><BR/>Zdenko Vinski, "Gibt es fruhslawische Keramik aus der Zeit der sudslawischen Laudnahme?" in Archaeologia Jugoslavica, I (Belgrade, 1954), pp. 71-73.<BR/><BR/>Belosevic, op.ch., pp. 67-72.<BR/><BR/>Jankovic and Jankovic, Sloveni..., pp. 19-20.<BR/><BR/>Emina Zecevic, "Rezultati istrazivanja srednjevekovnog Svaca," /Research Results of the Medieval Svac/ in Glasnik Srpskog arheoloskog drustva, 5 (Belgrade, 1989), pp. 112-114.<BR/><BR/>Patos Tartari, "Nje varreze e mesjetes se hershme ne Durres," in Iliria, 1 (Tirana, 1984), pp. 227-244.<BR/><BR/>Vladislav Popovic, "Albanija u kasnoj antici," /Albania in the late Classical Period/ in Iliri i Albanci (Belgrade: SANU, 1988), pp.201 -250.<BR/><BR/>Joachim Werner, "Neue Aspekte zum Awarischen Shatzfund von Vrap," in Iliria, 1 (Tirana, 1983), pp. 191-201.<BR/><BR/>Relja Novakovic, Gde se nalazila Srbija od VII do X veka /Where Serbia was situated from the 7th to 10th centuries/ (Belgrade: Narodna knjiga, 1981), pp. 61-63.<BR/><BR/>Cremosnik, Izvestaj...," /Report.../ in Glasnik Zemaljskog Muzeja, VIII, 302-315.<BR/><BR/>Tihomir Glavas, "Iskopavanje preromanicke crkve u Vrutcima kod Vrela Bosne," /Excavations of a pre-Romanic Church in Vrutci near Vrelo Bosne/ in Glasnik Zemaljskog muzeja, 37(A), 1982, pp. 93-122.<BR/><BR/>Klaic, Povijest Hrvata u ranom srednjem vijeku, Appendix IX.<BR/><BR/>Novakovic, op. cit., pp.41-48.<BR/><BR/>Einhardi Annales, Annales Regum Franconim, Pertz, Monumenta Germaniae I. See An. 822.<BR/><BR/>Klaic, Povijest Hrvata u ranom srednjem vijeku, pp. 497- 507.<BR/><BR/>Ljubomir Maksimovic, "O vremenu pohoda bugarskog kneza Borisa na Srbiju," /Prince Boris Campaign on Serbia/ in Zbornik filozofskog fakulteta, 14-1 (Belgrade, 1979), p.73.<BR/><BR/>Chronicon Anonymi regis notarii, Gesta Hungarorum, Scriptores rerum Hungaricum I (Budapestini, 1937), pp. 87- 88.<BR/><BR/>Ljetopis popa Dukljanina (Zagreb: Matica hrvatska, 1950), pp. 64-66.<BR/>Constantini Porphyrogeniti, De cerimoniis aulae byzantinae, ed. I. Reiskins (Bonnae, 1829), pp. 691:8-13.<BR/><BR/>Radoslav Mihailovic, "Crkva Svetog Petra kod Novog Pazara," /St. Peter's Church near Novi Pazar/ in Novopazarski Zbornik, 10 (Novi Pazar, 1986), pp. 67-100.<BR/><BR/>J. Neskovic and R. Nikolic, Petrova crkva kod Novog Pazara. /St. Peter's Church near Novi Pazar/ (Belgrade: Republicki zavod za zastitu spomenika kulture, 1987).<BR/><BR/>Gordana Tomovic, "Glagoljski natpis sa Cecana" /Glagolitic Inscription from Cecan/, in Istorijski casopis, XXXVII (Belgrade, 1990/1991), pp. 5-18.<BR/><BR/>Raimundi de Aguilers..., p. 237.<BR/><BR/>Comnene, Alexiade, III, 84:11-23.<BR/><BR/>B. Ferjancic, "Albanci u vizantijskim izvorima" /The Albanians in Byzantine Sources/ in Iliri i Albanci (Belgrade: SANU, 1 988), pp. 285-302.<BR/><BR/>Dragoljub Dragojlovic, "Sizmaticki popovi franjevackih Dubia i pravoslavna tradicija u Srednjevekovnoj Bosni," /Schismatic Priests of Franciscan Dubia and Orthodox Tradition in Medieval Bosnia/ in Balcanica annuaire de l'institut des etudes Balkaniques, XVI-XVII (Belgrade, 1985-1986), pp. 43-54.<BR/><BR/>Rade Mihaljcic, "Nementragende Steinischriften in Jugoslawien vom Ende des 7. bis zug Mathe des 13. Jahrhunderts" in Glossar zur fruhmittelalterlichen Geschihte im Ostlichen Europa, 2 (Wiesbaden: Franz Steiner Verlag GmbH, 1982).<BR/><BR/>Sefik Beslagic, Stecci, tipolosko-kataloski pregled /Tombstones.../ (Sarajevo: Veselin Maslesa, 1977), map 1.1.<BR/><BR/>B. Fucic, Glagoljski natpisi /Glagolitic Inscriptions/ (Zagreb: JAZU, 1982), Figs. 2-4.<BR/><BR/>Beslagic, Stecci - kultura i umetnost /Tombstones - Culture and Art/ (Sarajevo: Veselin Maslesa, 1982), pp. 485- 513.<BR/><BR/>Ljubo Sparavalo, "Srednjevjekovna groblja, crkvine i crkve na podrucju Sume trebinjske," /Medieval Cemeteries, Chapels and Churches.../ in Trubunia, 5 (Trebinje, 1979), pp. 53-136.<BR/><BR/>Andjelic, Bobovac i Kraljeva Sutijeska (Sarajevo, 1973), pp. 111-112, 181-182.<BR/><BR/>Emilija Pejovic, "Katalog arheoloskih nalaza" /The Catalogue of Archaeological Findings/ in Blago manastira Studenice (Beograd: SANU, 1988), p.73.<BR/><BR/>Cvetko Popovic, "Tehnika primitivnog loncarstva u Jugoslaviji," /Primitive Pottery Techniques in Yugoslavia/ in Glasnik Zemaljskog muzeja, XIV (Sarajevo, 1959), pp. 25- 57.<BR/><BR/>Persida Tomic, Grncarstvo u Srbiji /Pottery in Serbia/ (Belgrade: Etnografski muzej, 1983), pp. 24-32.<BR/><BR/>Djordje Jankovic,"The Medieval Pottery of the Serbian Lower Danube Basin," in Balcanoslavica, 3 (Belgrade. 1974), pp. 108-119.<BR/><BR/>Dusanka Bojanic-Lukac, "Krajina u vreme turske vladavine," /Krajina during Turkish Rule/ in Glasnik Etnografskog muzeja, 31-32 (Belgrade, 1968-1969), pp. 65-68.<BR/><BR/>Marko Vuksan, "Kovin, lokalitet Grad - sondazno istrazivanje 1986. godine," in Glasnik Srpskog arheoloskog drustva, 5 (Belgrade, 1989), pp. 117-122.<BR/>Dr Djordje Jankovic<BR/><BR/>Assistant Professor in the Department of Archaeology, Faculty of Philosophy, University of Belgrade. He teaches Medieval Archaeology from the 4th to the 17th centuries. He has published about twenty scientific papers in medieval archaeology, in particular within the area of Slav Archaeology.<BR/><BR/>Books<BR/><BR/><BR/>Podunavski deo oblasti akvisa u VI i pocetkom VII veka /The Danube Basin Section of the Province of Akvis in the 6th and at the beginning of the 7th century/ (1981)<BR/><BR/>Sloveni u jugoslovenskom Podunavlju /The Slavs in the Yugoslav Section of the Danube Basin (1990, Co-author with M. Jankovic)<BR/><BR/>Srpske gromile /Serbian Tumuls/ (1998).<BR/>// Project Rastko / Archaeology //<BR/>[ Search | Map | Contact | Help ]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124924368691102862005-08-24T18:59:00.000-04:002005-08-24T18:59:00.000-04:00Poor Serb Martyr, he has difficulties reading (pro...Poor Serb Martyr, he has difficulties reading (probably insomnia). Weren't his questions answered like 4 - 5 times? And the stuf he comes up with! Lol, 70% of Bosnia Serb?! :/ I must addmit, Serb denial and delusion reaches levels I never knew it could reach.<BR/><BR/>Go to sleep Martyr, it will do you good.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124918397926124042005-08-24T17:19:00.000-04:002005-08-24T17:19:00.000-04:00To the serb bloggerI'll have to repeat myself once...To the serb blogger<BR/><BR/>I'll have to repeat myself once again. You either don't want to or can't understand this. I suspect the former.<BR/><BR/>"The first known occurance of the word Albanoi as the name of an Illyrian tribe in what is now north-central Albania goes back to 130 AD, in a work of Ptolemy."<BR/><BR/>http://psychcentral.com/psypsych/Albania<BR/><BR/><BR/>As you can see, there was an Illyrian tribe called Albanoi which lived in north-central Albania.<BR/>There you have it, one of the many links between Albanians and Illyrians.<BR/>There are more, like the Albanian language, folklore, and archeological continuation.<BR/><BR/>"there are so many traces of ancient illirian/celtic/avar etc etc blood in the veins of croats, serbs, albos and everyone for that matter in the balkans. "<BR/><BR/>This a typical serbian answer to try and divert attention from their mixed ancestry.<BR/>We Albanians come from the southern Illyrians that lived on the same territory as we live today. The northern Illyrian were assimilated by Slavs, Celts and Avars thus forming todays slavic nations in the Balkans.<BR/>However, the Avars occupied a territory in todays area of Belgrade even before the slavs arrived there. So the serbians are direct descendants of mixing of Slavo-Avar people. The same as todays Bulgarians who are a bland of Slavs and Bulgars (a turkish people)...<BR/><BR/>Almost every nation in the world is mixed with different elements and populations because of migrations, occupations etc... <BR/>However some nations have saved their language, customs and still live in the same geografical area as their ancestors (Albanians).<BR/>Others have migrated from Caucasus, mixed with a Mongol tribe, and claim a region far away from their origin as their craddle.<BR/><BR/>You see the difference?<BR/><BR/>Tosi<BR/>SwedenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124913972576164882005-08-24T16:06:00.000-04:002005-08-24T16:06:00.000-04:00from today, first as usualhttp://www.energychallen...from today, first as usual<BR/>http://www.energychallenge.org/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124905954437035842005-08-24T13:52:00.000-04:002005-08-24T13:52:00.000-04:00listen man dont u understdn taht I myslef think th...listen man dont u understdn taht I myslef think that kosovo should be independent, yes many Serb holy sites are there but still i think it would be best for both serbs and albos for it to get independence my problem is the fact that serbia will be forced to give kosovo away and to recognise it whiel teh serbs in bosnia and croata were bombed and driven out by the West and were not allowed to get the same thing the albos in kosovo are getting. simple as that, there is a HUGE HUGE double standard here. and yes kosovo being independent is much better for serbia, i mean the reaility of the situation is that in a few years the albos could have had the entire parliment in belgrade under control just in sheer numbers. it would be better for both sides, just stop ur lies and admit that u are getting something whcih was never yours, cities were built roads were pa ved for u and u hate the same people who NEVER IN ALBO HISTORY treted u better, u were allowed to come to a country that was civilised compared to albania.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124902039768053942005-08-24T12:47:00.000-04:002005-08-24T12:47:00.000-04:00To Martyr or what you call yourself. You can stop ...To Martyr or what you call yourself. You can stop blogging here. I think you are a Serb. I can tell you that Kosovo wil not, and I repeat NOT be independent, even if that maybe would be the best solution. I have very good insight in the system and there is no possibility that it will be independent. The fact is that no-one for the moment knows how to move further. Its a little bit like Catch 22. Either way you do, it´s going to be problems. We will see what happens, but independence, sorry but no chance according to top officials.<BR/><BR/>DDUSAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124899955039703222005-08-24T12:12:00.000-04:002005-08-24T12:12:00.000-04:00sorry posted teh article twice. as for ur newset ...sorry posted teh article twice. as for ur newset comments lets take them one slow stp at a time and again prove to u how nothing was answered with a direct response but just theory and nonsense.<BR/><BR/>1. u r the oldest nation in europe u say, ah question, when was the word ALBANIAN used first? 11 century ok, what we were all before, or descend from is a totally differnt issue, just like the greeks of today have nothing to do with the ancient ones. there are so many traces of ancient illirian/celtic/avar etc etc blood in the veins of croats, serbs, albos and everyone for that matter in the balkans. AGAIN SHOW ME A SOURCE FROM PRIOR TO THE 19th CENT that claims u were teh ILLIRI, u dont have one, all u can come up with is "we have been living there forever" ahhh NOT AS ALBANINAS U DID NOT just like the other peoples and nations lived there, died there and became what they want to be konw as (macedonians and bosnians most recentl invented nationallity) again show me a source that makes any of these cliams by ur ancestors in the 16 century when there was barley any any albos in kosovo (look at ur turksih ottamna census reports on wikipedia.or for more info on that ).<BR/><BR/>2. srebs licked teh butts of turks??? dude, read any serious book on the ottamans and u will see taht noone fought them like the serbs, the serbs organized the first real serious revolt in 1804, fought like crazy to maintain their RELIGION (which serbs n albos once shared) whiel the ALBOS CONVERTED TO ISLAM???!?!?!?!? HOW DO U EVEN HAVE THE NEVER TO SAY THAT?? albos were loyal sevants to teh turks, ur people fought for them, ahhh who was Muhamed Ali??? u are all so proud of him. as for the serbs that licked the turks butts (true we had them) today they are called bosnian muslims and serbs of muslim faith in sandzak.<BR/>3 . u say serbs killed 250,000 in bosnia snd stole 49% of the land. dude we can talk about facts (which is the only thing i present to u not lies like this) do some reasearch on teh real number of dead in bosnia, which is 30,000 (half serbs) 5k in sarajevo killed in 146 camps, 4k in around srebrenica between 93-95. facts. "serbs stole 49% of the land" WHAT???? 74% of Bosnia was owned by Serbs prior to the wars in the 90s, serbs mostly live i the rural areas caue the serbs/craots in the cities were the ones who convered during turkish times (not to pay taxes) sound familiar? that is what ur ancestors did. its soo funny ur hatred of anything serbian here u say "serbs stole 49%" of the land in bosnia, in ur previous post u say serbs "lost bosnia", can u make u your mind? which is it? <BR/>4 and last but not least i did not "start" this it was the stupid healine "meet u in brussels" and kosovo was never serbias to begin with that started it. last question , what republic was kosovo a part of after ww2 in yugoslavia? can u anser that? was it a republic? if not it must have been part of another republic, can u tell me which one?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124899333598622662005-08-24T12:02:00.000-04:002005-08-24T12:02:00.000-04:00:) the Serb posters here prove that 50% of their p...:) the Serb posters here prove that 50% of their popullation never finishes elementary education. The good side is, there are 50% of others who do not speak in racist terms (I hope) and who actualy understand (again I hope) the issues.<BR/><BR/>Those other 50% are needed to help Serbia out. Ice cream to Serbia!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124898863659487102005-08-24T11:54:00.000-04:002005-08-24T11:54:00.000-04:00UN digs up Kosovo graves in search for missing Ser...UN digs up Kosovo graves in search for missing Serbs<BR/>24 Aug 2005 11:08:51 GMT<BR/><BR/>By Matthew Robinson<BR/><BR/>PRISTINA, Serbia and Montenegro, Aug 24 (Reuters) - U.N. forensics experts have begun exhuming 41 graves in the Kosovo capital believed to contain the remains of Serbs who went missing after the arrival of NATO troops six years ago.<BR/><BR/>Marked with sticks or scrap metal, the graves were located within the grounds of a seemingly abandoned Serbian cemetery, overrun with weeds and next to a railway line.<BR/><BR/>The head of the U.N. missing persons and forensics office said he believed they were the victims of a spate of kidnappings and murders in the majority Albanian province at the time of the withdrawal of Serb forces and NATO's deployment in June 1999.<BR/><BR/>"A number of Serbs went missing upon the arrival of KFOR troops, about 50 in the Pristina area alone," Jose-Pablo Baraybar told Reuters at the grave site, referring to the NATO-led Kosovo Force that still patrols the province.<BR/><BR/>"It is highly likely that people ended up dead in the street. They were collected, taken to the hospital, went through the mortuary and were then simply disposed of in this place."<BR/><BR/>Behind him, forensics experts in white body suits looked on as a digger scraped awkwardly at the edges of a large pit.<BR/><BR/>Seventeen graves were marked with Serb names, including those once listed as residents of a local retirement home.<BR/><BR/>Some were found wrapped in body bags or hospital sheets. One grave was marked with a scrap of metal from a washing machine.<BR/><BR/>Around 500 Serbs and 2,400 ethnic Albanians are still missing from the 1998-99 war in the southern Serbian province, now governed by the United Nations.<BR/><BR/>NATO bombed for 78 days to drive out Serb forces accused of killing and expelling thousands of ethnic Albanian civilians as they fought to crush a rebel insurgency.<BR/><BR/>But the deployment of 60,000 NATO soldiers failed to prevent a wave of revenge attacks by ethnic Albanians, who account for 90 percent of the province's 2 million people.<BR/><BR/>Kosovo's Albanians expect to win formal independence from Serbia in talks the West hopes to open this year. Serbia says the mountain-ringed province was the birthplace of the Serb nation and can never become independent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124898720100569582005-08-24T11:52:00.000-04:002005-08-24T11:52:00.000-04:00UN digs up Kosovo graves in search for missing Ser...UN digs up Kosovo graves in search for missing Serbs<BR/>24 Aug 2005 11:08:51 GMT<BR/><BR/>By Matthew Robinson<BR/><BR/>PRISTINA, Serbia and Montenegro, Aug 24 (Reuters) - U.N. forensics experts have begun exhuming 41 graves in the Kosovo capital believed to contain the remains of Serbs who went missing after the arrival of NATO troops six years ago.<BR/><BR/>Marked with sticks or scrap metal, the graves were located within the grounds of a seemingly abandoned Serbian cemetery, overrun with weeds and next to a railway line.<BR/><BR/>The head of the U.N. missing persons and forensics office said he believed they were the victims of a spate of kidnappings and murders in the majority Albanian province at the time of the withdrawal of Serb forces and NATO's deployment in June 1999.<BR/><BR/>"A number of Serbs went missing upon the arrival of KFOR troops, about 50 in the Pristina area alone," Jose-Pablo Baraybar told Reuters at the grave site, referring to the NATO-led Kosovo Force that still patrols the province.<BR/><BR/>"It is highly likely that people ended up dead in the street. They were collected, taken to the hospital, went through the mortuary and were then simply disposed of in this place."<BR/><BR/>Behind him, forensics experts in white body suits looked on as a digger scraped awkwardly at the edges of a large pit.<BR/><BR/>Seventeen graves were marked with Serb names, including those once listed as residents of a local retirement home.<BR/><BR/>Some were found wrapped in body bags or hospital sheets. One grave was marked with a scrap of metal from a washing machine.<BR/><BR/>Around 500 Serbs and 2,400 ethnic Albanians are still missing from the 1998-99 war in the southern Serbian province, now governed by the United Nations.<BR/><BR/>NATO bombed for 78 days to drive out Serb forces accused of killing and expelling thousands of ethnic Albanian civilians as they fought to crush a rebel insurgency.<BR/><BR/>But the deployment of 60,000 NATO soldiers failed to prevent a wave of revenge attacks by ethnic Albanians, who account for 90 percent of the province's 2 million people.<BR/><BR/>Kosovo's Albanians expect to win formal independence from Serbia in talks the West hopes to open this year. Serbia says the mountain-ringed province was the birthplace of the Serb nation and can never become independent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124892626285158932005-08-24T10:10:00.000-04:002005-08-24T10:10:00.000-04:00I'm glad to see the previous posters sane and frie...I'm glad to see the previous posters sane and friendly answer to a delusional serb.<BR/><BR/>Here I have some things to add.<BR/><BR/>First of all, it was you who started posting irrational articles by Julia Gorin. I on the other hand only provided responses to her outlandish claims. <BR/>Then I followed it with a very relevant article bout serbia today. I guess it was too much for your fragile mind.<BR/><BR/>Then to your simple questions which took me about 5 minutes to answer.<BR/><BR/>1) I'm not even going to mention the Dardani tribe which are our ancestors since the previous poster explained that very good to you. I'll give you a later connection.<BR/>The well known Albanian noble family of Dukagjini had it roots and lived on , logically enough, the Dukagjini plateu which is situated on western Kosova. There you have a simple link between Albanians and Kosova in the middle ages (13th, 14th and 15th century).<BR/><BR/>2) 2.how is it that your "self-determination" logic works for kosovo and not for other areas where serbs live in? <BR/><BR/>Which other parts where serbians live? There are no serbs in Krajina. They all fled like cowards when the Croatian army got equal arms. Operation Oluja showed what kind of capacity serbians have for war. Brave when fighting civilians but fleeing when facing equal enemies.<BR/>But I guess you mean Republika Srpska.<BR/>First of all, that entity was created by genocide and massmurder (se Srebrenica). <BR/>Second issue is that it was your lord, the arch criminal Milosevic himself, that signed the Dayton accord where the serbian part would remain in the Bosnian federation. <BR/>So there you have it, the serbians signed themselves the Dayton agreement. That excludes self-determination.<BR/>Whereas Kosova was taken by serbia by brutality in 1912. No Albanians have ever signed a treaty for being under serbia.<BR/><BR/>3) Your historical knowledge is very limited. Ptolemai, an Alexandrian scholar, wrote in the 2nd century about an Illirian tribe that was called Albanoi.<BR/><BR/>"The first known occurance of the word Albanoi as the name of an Illyrian tribe in what is now north-central Albania goes back to 130 AD, in a work of Ptolemy."<BR/><BR/>http://psychcentral.com/psypsych/Albania<BR/><BR/>There goes another one of your silly little attempts to falsify history.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Which brings me to the last question when you ask about maps. Here is a link for you:<BR/><BR/>http://users.bigpond.net.au/perovicgenealogy/page18.html<BR/><BR/>showing a map from 1878, where all Albanian lands are united and where Kosova had even larger borders than today.<BR/><BR/><BR/>So what is next? Any more silly little questions you need to get answered?<BR/>I understand your ignorance though, as the serbian schools are not working properly and the propaganda they teach you at schools is not based on reality.<BR/><BR/>Now you tell me this, how can you claim to have your craddle in Kosova when you come from Caucasus? You serbs are, after all, slavs mixed with mongolian Avars that migrated in the Balkans during Middle Ages. How you can claim Kosova, who has been inhabited by it's indigenous population from ancient times, is beyond me...<BR/>Can you answer me that? <BR/><BR/>Tosi<BR/>SwedenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124873369700404862005-08-24T04:49:00.000-04:002005-08-24T04:49:00.000-04:00I'm glad I made you laugh Martyr. Just to clear up...I'm glad I made you laugh Martyr. Just to clear up I never called you names, and find it very forunate that you've started experiencing laughing, you know its the first step to joy as the Buddha says.<BR/><BR/><I>"i love to see albos that area all of a sudden so european , u worked with the police and they were professional, wow, how cosmipolitan are u. very nice very civilized of u"</I><BR/><BR/>That is cause we are European. We are among the oldest European nations. Our language has influences of Celtic tribal languages, and the culture. The music, the dance, this is anthropology my friend, things taht cannot be denied. This is proof that Albanians lived in the area for millenia.<BR/><BR/><I>"dude ask anyone ANYONE from europe to the states what they think of albos, ask anyone who has had any type of interaction with u guys and all they will say is taht u are the MOST primitive people they have met, into selling drugs kidnaping girls from kosovo n albania to pimp them in london amsterdam etc etc etc"</I><BR/><BR/>Martyr I live in Europe, I have a relationship with a European, and I am totaly immersed into this culture, from London, to Milano, from Madrid to Helsinki. I have never experienced such racism and hatered from any European, besides a few Serbified ones. Things you speak of are simply, untrue.<BR/><BR/><I>"ask anyone who knows anothing about serbs and they will tell u WITH ENVY about a nation who ALWAYS FOUGHT THE BIGGEST POWERS (Hitler, dirty turks, NATO) and never got scared never had to depend on someone to fight for them like the albos did with the USA"</I><BR/><BR/>Serbs have always licked the behinds of the likes as Turks, French, Russians. Serbia would not exist if it weren't for the support of these countries. Serbia was a vasal state in the Ottoman Empire, Albania was totaly occupied. Reason? Simply, Serbia understood and was less stubborn, Albanians were dumb enough to fight the Turks in the name of the Vatican and the Pope. We fought for Europe and Christianity, then we were eventualy subdued, failed since to fight them there needed to be an alliance. Greeks, Bulgarians and Albanians could not fight alone when a country smack in the middle was serving as a enforcement point for the Turks (i.e. Serbia).<BR/><BR/><I>"WHAT R U GOING TO DO WHEN NATO LEAVES????"</I><BR/><BR/>We will survive the Serb terror just like we have ever since you arrived to South East Europe, of course unless you choose to leave your racist ways.<BR/><BR/><I>"but when u have an entire society like the albaniacs in kosovo who live in dirt where each family has 10-11 kids then yes that is animalistic no doubt. u dont want to live next to racists???"</I><BR/><BR/>Well this proves you are a racist. On the other hand it also implies a very funny concept, that all Albanians somehow before the invention of the Internet gathered and declared "let us make 10 kids each to fight the Serbs". You cannot be serious.<BR/><BR/><I>"1.show me (besides when ur best frined hitler gave<BR/>it to u) when was kosovo EVER albanian????"</I><BR/><BR/>Hitler was no-ones best friend. Not even Serbs, he used your country, he could not use ours simply because we don't have the seed of nationalism as deelpy rooted as Serbs do. Othervise we would have wiped your bottoms easily. As an answer to your question, simply ask yourself, who was there before Serbs decended into S/E Europe. Answer: Illyrians. Now, look at the characteristics between the two people (Illyrians and Albanians) and clearly you will see the cultural similarities and lingustic similarities. The Albanians come from Albanoi, one of the tribes in northern Albania. On the other hand, the Kosovars are more of a Dardan tribal mix, which in itself was mixed with the Celtic tribes that settled the area circa 3000 BC. The physical characteristics prove this, i.e. pressence of blond and red hairs among people in the area. <BR/><BR/><I>"2.how is it that your "self-determination" logic works for kosovo and not for other areas where serbs live in? "</I><BR/><BR/>Because your criminals slaughtered 250,000 people, took away 49% of the land when there were less than 30% of you, all at the cost of Bosniac civilians and Croat ones.<BR/><BR/><I>"3please can someone please show me a source a text one sentance from prior to the 19th century (when the croats and serbs started to as well to claim this) where there is even a mention amongst albos that u are illiri?"</I><BR/><BR/>Your question was answered earlier by someone. You can find it urself.<BR/><BR/><I>"can u show me one political map, one historians essay anything written prior to 1992 (the begining of the serb demonization) where it states taht the albos in kosovo were NOT pro nazi and did NOT side with hitler and mussolini and that kosovo was NOT given to them in return for their nazi alligence."</I><BR/><BR/>The maps during World War 2 were drawn allong Ethnic lines which implies Serbs were not a majority in Kosova. I am glad you bring this up, since it proves that your claims to this land are baseless. Also prior to WW2, all maps showed one thing, the Ottoman Empire, and before that the Serb Empire and other Empires. But we were there all the time, saw them all fall.<BR/><BR/><I>"this should all keep you busy for a while like for the rest of ur lives cause u will NEVER find it! hahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahaahah"</I><BR/><BR/>Looks like its keeping you more busy than us, given that you have nothing to do with Kosova. Do you have a home to look after, like Serbia?<BR/><BR/>All the best Martyr, as your names shows I hope your people are not so sad as to turn racists like you into martyrs. Even though your nation caused so much desctruction and pain I still think your country deserves better, for all of us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124853129782452302005-08-23T23:12:00.000-04:002005-08-23T23:12:00.000-04:00racist? oh really now i am racist for calling u a...racist? oh really now i am racist for calling u a sheep hearder while u calling an idiot, gremlin servian (a duragatory term in ur eyes) is ok? nice logic. i love to see albos that area all of a sudden so european , u worked with the police and they were professional, wow, how cosmipolitan are u. very nice very civilized of u. the fact that the same members of these police units were planting bombs killing police officers killing serb civillians and albo as well is ok for u? u say that the right for self determination is a right, i agree, so then (one of my unanswered questions) why then dont the albos support the serbs in bosnia and croatia for the right of self deternimation? why did so many go and fight for the croats/muslims? were the serbs from bosnia also "repressing" you and not giving u everything that any minority in any nation in the world has? as for the other comments being jealous of the albanians???? hahhhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahDUDE U REALLY ARE SOOOOO FUNNY!!!!!! <BR/>dude ask anyone ANYONE from europe to the states what they think of albos, ask anyone who has had any type of interaction with u guys and all they will say is taht u are the MOST primitive people they have met, into selling drugs kidnaping girls from kosovo n albania to pimp them in london amsterdam etc etc etc. ask anyone who knows anothing about serbs and they will tell u WITH ENVY about a nation who ALWAYS FOUGHT THE BIGGEST POWERS (Hitler, dirty turks, NATO) and never got scared never had to depend on someone to fight for them like the albos did with the USA. WHAT R U GOING TO DO WHEN NATO LEAVES???? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAH<BR/>did u ever ask urselves that? ask anyone who knows the serbs and the names like Tesla, Pupin, Miodrag Stojkovic(first doctor in the world to clone a human embryo) are, mileva maric etc etc etc the list goes on while u boys steal land that is not urs and yes multiply like animals, listen i can understadn a family that wants to have 10 kids, tehre are exeptions where some families can afford taht,but when u have an entire society like the albaniacs in kosovo who live in dirt where each family has 10-11 kids then yes that is animalistic no doubt. u dont want to live next to racists??? dude tens of thosands of albos went to serbia sinc ethe 40's to escape the jail of albania, shit i eman just in 99 another 300,000 plus albos came bak with the peole who were fleeing the nato-serbia war, i mean come on without nato u guys had no chance even in ur wild albo lies and imagination. as for my unanswered questions here u go (from 2 weeks ago):<BR/>1.show me (besides when ur best frined hitler gave<BR/> it to u) when was kosovo EVER albanian????<BR/>2.how is it that your "self-determination" logic works for kosovo and not for other areas where serbs live in? <BR/>3please can someone please show me a source a text one sentance from prior to the 19th century (when the croats and serbs started to as well to claim this) where there is even a mention amongst albos that u are illiri?<BR/>4. can u show me one political map, one historians essay anything written prior to 1992 (the begining of the serb demonization) where it states taht the albos in kosovo were NOT pro nazi and did NOT side with hitler and mussolini and that kosovo was NOT given to them in return for their nazi alligence. <BR/><BR/>this should all keep you busy for a while like for the rest of ur lives cause u will NEVER find it! hahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahaahahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8736921.post-1124797172282782062005-08-23T07:39:00.000-04:002005-08-23T07:39:00.000-04:00Question answered: you as a Serb are making very b...Question answered: you as a Serb are making very bad publicity for your nation. As a racist for humanity. You can continue claiming our "brothers sell heroin" and "you pimp your women", things that are of criminal nature and are totaly irrelevant to creating a state. It is known we are doing a much better job at clearing up crime than Serbia is, but this again is irrelevant because we are not here to compare our police/justice system to Serbias. We are not a country yet, Serbia has been for a century. Thus hard to compare.<BR/><BR/>I have worked for the police, KPS, and can assure you these men/women are becoming a force to be proud of. This is not only thanks to the desire they carry, to serve as the Police of Kosova, but also thanks to how Serb police/military treated us, as sheep (this is a name you used). Racism among that country's police force made us stronger. <BR/><BR/>I hope you realize what this means dear Martyr, each time you post here, we are more determined to push away from that entity called Serbia and Serbs. You have shown where your heart lies, with the likes of KKK and Le Pen. Selfdetermination is a human right and we choose not to be in the same borders with racists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com